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I worked at Google for -10 days

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Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by champagnepapi »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #7

There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen. I’ll lay out the reasons below: 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. 2. Ban revoking offers only for overseas em…

>This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10

Not sure if I agree with this... Is hiring in European countries with stronger labor laws harder? AFAIK the number of rounds is the same. In European countries they have the concept of probation period to protect against an employee who isn't the right fit. We do as well in America, it's just called "at-will employment", so it's pretty much your entire tenure.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by karmakurtisaani »

Something similar almost happened to me. Took months to interview, matched with a team that was working on a very interesting product and passed the hiring committee. Apparently the whole product was axed before they sent me an offer, so no hire this time. Probably a good thing in this climate, as this was just at the time the hiring freezes began.

I wouldn't have relocated at least, but would have of course quit my current job and probably had a bad time in the present job market.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by kevinmgranger »

comprev wrote: post #25
kleiba wrote: post #6

I worked at Google for 0 days. There. Fixed that for you.

Not sure why you've been downvoted so much as it's the brutal truth. The author cannot put "worked at Google" on their CV.

Nowhere did the author imply they would put that. The author is talking about the strange situation of being fired before they had started.

The person you're replying to is being downvoted because it adds zero value to the conversation here. Or perhaps, aptly... negative value.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by trentnix »

sashank_1509 wrote: post #7

There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen. I’ll lay out the reasons below: 1. Let’s say we pass a law that prevents offers from being revoked. This will make hiring much harder and increase 5 rounds to like 10 and involve many more committees and even then most candidates other than sureshots getting rejected. 2. Ban revoking offers only for overseas em…

> There’s no great solution to this apart from the economy and company doing well so that this doesnt happen.

I'm absolutely not interesting in arguing for any great solution but I do think people would serve their own interests better applying for jobs that fill needs and not that fill seats. I recognize it's easier said than done, but I really despise the livestock-based personnel management approach that infests most of big corporate.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by vladharbuz »

glitchc wrote: post #2

Is your visa still valid? If so, move to London anyways. You've already quit your job and sold your stuff. Chances are if you qualified for Google, you'll find work there. In for a penny, in for a pound, as the Brits say.

A sponsored Skilled Worker Visa becomes invalid 60 days after employment ends.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by incone123 »

glitchc wrote: post #2

Is your visa still valid? If so, move to London anyways. You've already quit your job and sold your stuff. Chances are if you qualified for Google, you'll find work there. In for a penny, in for a pound, as the Brits say.

UK work visas are linked to the specific employer so they become invalid if the offer is withdrawn.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by digitalgangsta »

Seems Google treats its employees like they treat their customers. My experience with Google as a customer is just as frustrating (have had corporate accounts locked out with no avenue for recourse except sending emails over weeks, to simply be denied again because their bots think I'm doing something strange, and products my company was relying on and using simply stop being supported one day).

I stopped using or supporting Google related products, and declined moving forwards on an interview offer as a result. This story just reinforces this view.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by bojo »

I've had a similar story happen in the past.

I was living in Japan looking for remote jobs and came across Couchbase. Interviewed well with the team who all seemed excited to get someone with my experience on board, however, the hiring manager said he wasn't sure he wanted to manage someone in my timezone. He pulled me into a separate call at the end of the rounds and asked some weird questions, which in hindsight were documentation.

When the HR person handling me called to congratulate me and sent the offer letter I was pretty excited. It seemed the timezone thing wasn't a problem then. I put my notice in with my other job, and then waited for a week. Two weeks. Three. HR person didn't know what was going on when I called them back.

Then I got any email from Couchbase's lawyers with a document stating they would hire me for 10 days total and no longer. Fuck you very much, hiring manager Larry. If you didn't want to hire me so bad why the dog and pony show?

I scrambled to see if my old position was open, but the CEO said he had closed it because, well, I put my notice in right at the end of the budget year and he moved that money.

I went unemployed for 5 months as I hunted for jobs, both local and remote. It put a massive amount of strain on my marriage, my mental health, and everything in between. Thankfully it didn't include a move as it sounds like the blog author did.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by crazygringo »

onion2k wrote: post #10

Having an offer rescinded for 'business reasons' is unbelievably annoying, and the author has my sympathy. That said, it's kind of understandable too. Things happen. The landscape changes. Some people will be affected. You kind of have to roll with it sometimes. I wish the author the best of luck finding something else quickly. What I find truly incredible though is that it took a full year to go from application to…

> How can any team get anything done if it takes that long to bring additional resources in?

You're misunderstanding the timing. Google doesn't hire for a specific team -- it determines you pass the bar for hiring, then they have to match you to a team.

If a team inside of Google needs a new employee, it often only takes a couple of weeks, whether it's an internal transfer, or whether it's a new hire who's been waiting around to be matched with a team.

Obviously it can take a little longer if a team decides the candidate they want is in another city/country because of relocation and visas, but that's nothing to do with Google.

Re: I worked at Google for -10 days

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Post by ghaff »

kevinmgranger wrote: post #30
jmyeet wrote: post #13

Sorry this happened to you. I’d obviously not your fault. I want to give general advice for people changing jobs in the future. Don’t quit your first job until you’ve physically started your second job. Take sick leave. Take vacations. Just don’t show up if you have no other option. This is particularly the case if your immigration status is dependent on employment but it applies generally. Companies will not hesitat…

Is this advice incompatible with the practice of giving notice? Not that I'm arguing for or against it, I just want to visualize how this works.

Yes. And it doesn't help you if you get laid off after two weeks which is probably just as likely if the company is pulling back extended offers.
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