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Re: They’re selling nudes of imaginary women on Reddit

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Post by matwood »

rohit2412 wrote: post #12
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates Yes, because of housing, healthcare, childcare and education costs spiraling out of control and the difficulty of getting well paying jobs to cover those costs are pushing youngsters to spend their youth and most fertile years hunched behind a desk studying and working to climb the corporate ladder to afford a home bigger than a shoebox in the…

I'm sure they play a role, but I have read that even teenagers are having less sex. I don't think teenagers are thinking about housing and childcare when not pursuing sex.

I don't know about teenagers, but when I see stats like 20% of the men get 80% of the dates on dating apps it's obvious why people give up.

To your point, there are multiple reasons causing people to have less sex and less children.

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Post by bediger4000 »

mr_00ff00 wrote: post #17
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates Yes, because of housing, healthcare, childcare and education costs spiraling out of control and the difficulty of getting well paying jobs to cover those costs are pushing youngsters to spend their youth and most fertile years hunched behind a desk studying and working to climb the corporate ladder to afford a home bigger than a shoebox in the…

Jobs getting harder or bot paying well is a odd explanation of low birth rates. After all, quality of life is way better than 100 years ago, and 100 years ago people would have 8 children at like 25.

Those folks in the past had children because the children paid for themselves beginning about age 7 or 8, and were an ongoing source of labor, quality of life or not.

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Post by galaxytachyon »

With the rising number of single young adults, this will just feed the fire. We may eventually end up with a generation that is unequipped to deal with the responsibilities and demands of a real relationship.

On one hand, this is definitely not ideal. But on the other hand, I can't blame them for seeking the easy way. A good relationship requires almost unacceptable sacrifices for a young adult considering the rising costs and stagnant wages and the expectations from their partners and family and workplace. Not to mention potential complications such as cheating, abuse, emotional issues, and maybe even legal problems. Way too much risk for just too little gain.

A simulation has maybe 50% of the benefits and none of the downside. In a way, this is the result that we as a society has pushed for. And we might be about to pay a price for it.

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Post by standardUser »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #9
dcchambers wrote: post #8

Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates (many are already below replacement rates). The rise of AI companions is going to absolutely drop the bottom out of even the most pessimistic birth rate outlooks. It's easy to imagine a future where the majority of all young people give up on trying to establish real relationships and just resort to AI companions for the cheap and easy dopamine.…

>Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates Yes, because of housing, healthcare, childcare and education costs spiraling out of control and the difficulty of getting well paying jobs to cover those costs are pushing youngsters to spend their youth and most fertile years hunched behind a desk studying and working to climb the corporate ladder to afford a home bigger than a shoebox in the…

Cost of living is a factor, but the demographic shift we are seeing throughout the developed and developing world is well-documented and has many causes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_transition

I know a lot of 20 and 30-something urbanites who don't plan to have children and I doubt cheaper rent or free childcare would make them change their entire life trajectory. There's a lot of other factors at play.

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Post by dcchambers »

spacemadness wrote: post #14
dcchambers wrote: post #8

Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates (many are already below replacement rates). The rise of AI companions is going to absolutely drop the bottom out of even the most pessimistic birth rate outlooks. It's easy to imagine a future where the majority of all young people give up on trying to establish real relationships and just resort to AI companions for the cheap and easy dopamine.…

This is simple moral panic backed up by nothing but gut feel.

Is it? The number of teens that do things like date, have sex, drive, work, or hang out in person/go to parties has already fallen off a cliff thanks to social media.[^1] Who is to say AI won't make that trend even worse?

[1]: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340562787_Students%...

Re: They’re selling nudes of imaginary women on Reddit

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Post by wowyallsuck »

voldacar wrote: post #20
dcchambers wrote: post #8

Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates (many are already below replacement rates). The rise of AI companions is going to absolutely drop the bottom out of even the most pessimistic birth rate outlooks. It's easy to imagine a future where the majority of all young people give up on trying to establish real relationships and just resort to AI companions for the cheap and easy dopamine.…

This would just select for people who actually want kids, and after the initial population bottleneck the species would be fine

Nobody thinks there’s a biological cause to the demographic challenges so many nations look to be facing.

So what you’ve stated is true but tautological with respect to all of the potential causes of the bottleneck.

The real concern is getting through the bottleneck at all, and without societal upheaval.

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Post by comte7092 »

mr_00ff00 wrote: post #17
ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates Yes, because of housing, healthcare, childcare and education costs spiraling out of control and the difficulty of getting well paying jobs to cover those costs are pushing youngsters to spend their youth and most fertile years hunched behind a desk studying and working to climb the corporate ladder to afford a home bigger than a shoebox in the…

Jobs getting harder or bot paying well is a odd explanation of low birth rates. After all, quality of life is way better than 100 years ago, and 100 years ago people would have 8 children at like 25.

How is it an odd explanation? the opportunity cost of having children has risen dramatically, that tracks with improved quality of life.

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Post by xnx »

anonzzzies wrote: post #13
dcchambers wrote: post #8

Most developed countries are already worried about declining birth rates (many are already below replacement rates). The rise of AI companions is going to absolutely drop the bottom out of even the most pessimistic birth rate outlooks. It's easy to imagine a future where the majority of all young people give up on trying to establish real relationships and just resort to AI companions for the cheap and easy dopamine.…

This is how AI will destroy us? It’s like the holodeck on Star Trek: if that would exist, almost no human would do anything else than be there 24/7. The low-fi versions we will have the coming years might be enough to at least keep the male part of society permanently occupied.

Video games are already a very good approximation for virtual worlds.
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