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Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Re: Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Post by preommr »

omneity wrote: post #3

4 years ?!? That’s like a century in AI-dog years. Who knows how the world will be by then.

Is it?

I think the recent release of ChatGPT has skewed perceptions. There's no guarantee that there's going to continue to be as ground breaking shifts that have happened recently with llms and diffusion models.

To continue with the popular comparison, there were a lot of apps when the iphone first launced the app store before it tapered off. If you looked at just the first year, you'd think we'd have an app for every moment of our day.

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Post by tough »

pell wrote: post #21
truetraveller wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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I think I’ve used it so much that a sentence in I assumed it was ChatGPT. It has a certain way of speaking.

Yes, very recognisable, too polite and servicial for any real human

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Post by tough »

hbbio wrote: post #30
bko wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> [2008] France has been given the green light by the European Commission for a $152 million government grant for a consortium building a European rival to U.S. internet search giant Google. I don't think government funding to compete with private businesses works well https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/ec-...

They also funded 2 competitors to AWS, just to make sure we own cloud computing. Two is always better than one, right, by ensuring they'll compete with each other. Another bright idea was to let both projects be managed by large reputable French corporations that everybody trusts. With no software DNA. How come did both fail? Edit: One of the largest European provider today, OVH, who existed at the time and was alrea…

C'est la vie

Govt=Legal grift

It's the same all over europe mostly, sadly.

We were pioneers in the medieval times, we can follow up the leaders barely now

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Post by 0xDEF »

v4dok wrote: post #2

This is a lot of money going into compute. I will say this again. EU is sleeping on the opportunity to throw money in an opensource initiative, in a field were money matter and the field is still (kind of) level.

Devil's advocate: Why should EU tax payers fund open source initiatives and not proprietary European initiatives that will help Europe compete against American and Chinese tech giants?

Re: Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Post by alexb_ »

If someone released a chatGPT/characterAI with NSFW content enabled it would eat into a big share of their users (and for characterAI, maybe take all of them). Seriously, look into what people are posting about when it comes to characterAI, and it's 80% "here's how to get around NSFW filters".

Unsure why nobody is taking this very very obvious hole in AI tech.

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Post by qikInNdOutReply »

If its THE exponential curve of AGI, every day not invested, will result in years behind in a few months. So these are rather small investments, but still bigger then the "to little to late" of the european union.

Its not very visual or intuitive, but in some games, were the resource curve is exponential, small early headstarts become whole armies, were the opponent fields none in very short time.

Especially as AGI is expected to be a multiplicator on alot of other sectors. All those breakthroughs, could become daily occurances, created by a AGI on schedule. It could really become one country that glows, and the rest of the planet falling eternally behind.

Re: Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Post by rsp1984 »

AI models are in a race to the bottom and everybody inside Anthropic knows it. Besides OpenAI, with billions to spend plus a partnership with MS, there's also Google, Apple, Meta and Amazon who can afford to run losses on AI for years without blinking an eye.

And if that wasn't enough the Open Source world is releasing new models almost weekly now, for free.

Anthropic is putting on a big show to convince gullible investors that there's money to be made with foundational models. There's not. I expect a big chunk of the raised money to go out the door in secondary sales and inflated compensations. Great if you're working at Anthropic. Not great for investors.

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Post by petra »

didgeoridoo wrote: post #5

Anthropic’s Claude LLM is pretty interesting. In many ways it feels much more limited than GPT4. However, it is suspiciously good at a few edge-case code generation tasks (can’t go into details) that makes me wonder where it got its training data from. It also seems to be much less prone to hallucinating APIs and modules, preferring instead to switch back to natural language and describe the task without pretending i…

What about other tasks, like research in other areas? How is Claude different than chatGPT ?

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Post by mvdwoord »

alexb_ wrote: post #35

If someone released a chatGPT/characterAI with NSFW content enabled it would eat into a big share of their users (and for characterAI, maybe take all of them). Seriously, look into what people are posting about when it comes to characterAI, and it's 80% "here's how to get around NSFW filters". Unsure why nobody is taking this very very obvious hole in AI tech.

"the VHS of AI"

Re: Anthropic’s $5B, 4-year plan to take on OpenAI

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Post by xena »

alexb_ wrote: post #35

If someone released a chatGPT/characterAI with NSFW content enabled it would eat into a big share of their users (and for characterAI, maybe take all of them). Seriously, look into what people are posting about when it comes to characterAI, and it's 80% "here's how to get around NSFW filters". Unsure why nobody is taking this very very obvious hole in AI tech.

The main reason why companies don't allow NSFW content is because of puritan payment processors that see that stuff and then go absolute sicko mode and lock people out of the traditional finance system.
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