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Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A 5% flat fee is too much for me though, if it had a cap then it'd be different. It can't have a cap if payment gateway processing fees are percentage-based.

Of course you can still have a cap. "A payment processing fee of 0.5% + 0.20c is collected on the total donation. We take an additional fee of 4.5%, up to a maximum of $10" There, done.

> A payment processing fee of 0.5% + 0.20c

Stripe's payment processing fee is 2.9% + 30¢ in the US.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#142
post #87

Donation income is risibly small. People will sign praise your work, tell you how much they depend on it, and how it changed their lives. Others will ask you tricky questions that really ought to be asked to a lawyer. ...and they still won't donate a cent. I get about 70 cents per thousand unique visitors. About one in every 14,000 visitors donate. Affiliate income is roughly 100 times that without trying. Let me put…

What do you mean when you refer to "affiliate income"? Is that like ads, or putting your ID in Amazon links, or something like that?

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#143
post #87

Donation income is risibly small. People will sign praise your work, tell you how much they depend on it, and how it changed their lives. Others will ask you tricky questions that really ought to be asked to a lawyer. ...and they still won't donate a cent. I get about 70 cents per thousand unique visitors. About one in every 14,000 visitors donate. Affiliate income is roughly 100 times that without trying. Let me put…

I think that's all there is to it really. People just don't want to donate.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#144

I put 50$ in the pokey machine but it’s only paid it out to two projects? Some of the other projects which are missing out I already donate to. Any ideas?

Hi! Thanks for trying it out. I have reached out via email but just in case, looks like your account is configured for only first level dependencies. If you increase it to 3 levels it'll show much better results. You're also able to adjust the distribution of funds via boosting in the dependencies page.

Please note the donation will be kept in PENDING state for 5 days to allow time for full dependency analysis, adjustments via boost and/or exclusions. In this time we'll be reaching out to the other projects in your dependency tree to onboard them.

Please ping me if you need anything. Many thanks again!

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#145
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging a fee for a service Agreed, but percentage-based fees can quickly become an unfairly large part of payments. I love the idea of this project, but I'd prefer there to be a 5% or X dollars minimum, so that if 5% is more than X dollars, then it doesn't force 5% minimum. If I'm donating $500 to 45 projects, then each project on an even split is getting $11, but thanks.dev…

My guess is that more than half of that $25 goes to the payment provider (Stripe etc.). Maybe more. The remaining ~$10 will go to thaks.dev to cover operational costs, administration and other expenses. I don't expect them to work for free. If you think it's unfair, contact the developers directly to see if you can wire them money (to avoid PayPal fees). If it's too much work, you can pay services like thanks.dev tha…

Then they should call it what it is: A fee (to cover operational expenses). It's still not honest to call it a tip.

(And now I'm realizing that American tipping culture may be playing in to differing expectations here...)

EDIT: I see they have now updated their wording.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#146
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging a fee for a service Agreed, but percentage-based fees can quickly become an unfairly large part of payments. I love the idea of this project, but I'd prefer there to be a 5% or X dollars minimum, so that if 5% is more than X dollars, then it doesn't force 5% minimum. If I'm donating $500 to 45 projects, then each project on an even split is getting $11, but thanks.dev…

My guess is that more than half of that $25 goes to the payment provider (Stripe etc.). Maybe more. The remaining ~$10 will go to thaks.dev to cover operational costs, administration and other expenses. I don't expect them to work for free. If you think it's unfair, contact the developers directly to see if you can wire them money (to avoid PayPal fees). If it's too much work, you can pay services like thanks.dev tha…

Why on earth would you think that a payment provider is taking 50%? They take ~3% + 30 cents

It's literally public information

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#149

Folks may also be interested in checking out https://stackaid.us (previous discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32837829 ) as a different platform doing similar work

Tidelift also has a similar program: https://tidelift.com/about/lifter

But dependency tracking is hard and all of these platforms only scratch the surface. For example, I've never seen a solution that detects C libraries used from other languages, let alone the dependencies of these libraries. Then there are build-time dependencies which are hard to detect. Here's an example of a complex dependency chain:

    redmine -> ruby-commonmarker -> libcmark -> re2c
Wake me up if someone offers a solution that detects chains like that.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

#150
One thing that I haven't seen addressed here or in the FAQ is: What happens to donations towards dependencies where the maintainer / organization / group of maintainers is not registered at thanks.dev?

The FAQ has a section titled "What happens if I don’t claim my balance?", but I think this only applies to people registered at thanks.dev. I'm not even sure that thanks.dev would be able to reliably contact developers that / maintainers in all (most ?) situations.

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