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Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by koito17 »

qwerki wrote: post #39
koito17 wrote: post #20

Genius idea. I try to donate to open source software I've used for long time, especially if I cannot contribute any code back. This site seems to automate the process of finding out which dependencies of your software are accepting donations. Unfortunately, I cannot use this right now, because Maven dependencies can't seem to be found, and neither can Cargo dependencies. I decided to test it with an app that uses a m…

Hi Koito17 Thanks for trying it out! Are you able to ping me your github handle so I can get to the bottom of it (email in profile). Alternatively, for multi-project repos you can add a thanks.yaml file to the root of the repo with a `maxDepth: 2` value inside it. Unfortunately, deep scanning the entire repo looking for files would be prohibitive due to GH rate limiting hence this approach. Please keep me posted. I'm…

Hi. First of all, thanks for the quick response, and more importantly, working on this cool idea!

I see on the website that CLJS isn't supported; that's fine. But the NPM dependencies not being detected does intrigue me. I'm going to follow up with you on Discord if that's fine

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by pabs3 »

aborsy wrote: post #49

I use like 50 different software heavily. Each of these has like tens of developers. I can donate to some and rotate each month, but how about the rest, and dependencies? There is just so much software there that seems hopeless (although there are also billions of users).

IIRC the model of thanks.dev ensures that those dependencies get some money too.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by armini »

ivanvanderbyl wrote: post #47
Sephr wrote: post #23

The UI imposes a 5% minimum (and 15% default) value for "Tip thanks.dev" under "How much would you like to donate each month?" on https://thanks.dev/settings This implementation is clearly for-profit. I want to directly tip open source projects using a system that doesn't involve other third parties taking a significant cut.

That seems reasonable to me. I assume they are using stripe for payments, so that's already 2.9% gone to facilitate you giving money to the project.

Not to mention hosting costs :)

Sponsors have a slider that allows them to adjust their tip from 5% to 100% of their monthly donation. We figured minimum 5% would cover our compute & merchant fees but left it to the community to decide what we should get. We thought this was the most aligned approach with open source. Totally open to other ideas and suggestions though.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by eastbound »

hardwaresofton wrote: post #8

We're trying to do this @ NimbusWS, but the corporate way. Excuse the crappy looking site (been busy trying to actually deliver all the shit on that page), but I believe that F/OSS can be sustainable: https://nimbusws.com/#sustainability All it takes is contributing a small % of revenue back. I'm not decided that 10%-30% will be the final # (can a business give that much and still compete?), but then also some of me…

Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by fmx »

Sephr wrote: post #23

The UI imposes a 5% minimum (and 15% default) value for "Tip thanks.dev" under "How much would you like to donate each month?" on https://thanks.dev/settings This implementation is clearly for-profit. I want to directly tip open source projects using a system that doesn't involve other third parties taking a significant cut.

https://thanks.dev/faq says:

  What are your fees?
  Tips at time of donation. You decide.
If payment is required to use a service then that payment is not a "tip" - it is a "fee". Anything over the required payment would be a "tip". This FAQ answer implies that the required payment is zero, which, it turns out, is false.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with charging a fee for a service, but there is something wrong with lying about it.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by 411111111111111 »

aunty_helen wrote: post #38
Sephr wrote: post #23

The UI imposes a 5% minimum (and 15% default) value for "Tip thanks.dev" under "How much would you like to donate each month?" on https://thanks.dev/settings This implementation is clearly for-profit. I want to directly tip open source projects using a system that doesn't involve other third parties taking a significant cut.

The irony of "someone should build something for free" when complaining about a donation system for helping open source projects get paid for their work.

Why would this be irony? If anything it's irony that they're offering a for profit service to facilitate donations vs adding themselves as a donor recipient on their platform.

Re: Sponsor the open source projects you depend on

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Post by hardwaresofton »

eastbound wrote: post #55
hardwaresofton wrote: post #8

We're trying to do this @ NimbusWS, but the corporate way. Excuse the crappy looking site (been busy trying to actually deliver all the shit on that page), but I believe that F/OSS can be sustainable: https://nimbusws.com/#sustainability All it takes is contributing a small % of revenue back. I'm not decided that 10%-30% will be the final # (can a business give that much and still compete?), but then also some of me…

Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities. There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose.

> Concerning soending, open-source contributors are not employees. They do contribute to business, but wouldn’t do what you need if you needed it, like fixing vulnerabilities.

I agree, there's value being brought by both sides of this equation -- F/OSS developers for building something valuable, and Nimbus for providing it, making fixes/upstream contributions when necessary, etc.

The problem with the current state of things is that the value capture is ~0% for F/OSS projects. Maybe 15%-30% is too high, but it needs to be appreciably above 0% for F/OSS to flourish.

> There should be the same difference as between standard on-the-shelf products and custom products made for the industry, that fit a particular purpose.

Would you mind expanding on this? Are you advocating for open core? It's not that I want to provide an enterprise version of 10/100ss of software -- more that I think there's value in them as a service (use Postgres, but avoid getting a degree in Postges administration).

The idea is to do just enough hacking that makes the service more reliable and sustainable to run without manual ops burden -- that's the differentiator for Nimbus (along with know-how).

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