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Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think I'd accept anything worse than McDonald's if they paid me to eat it.

McDonald’s already is that product. It costs 1/4th as much as a restaurant burger. And half the time it’s just as good.

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Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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AI is going to really filter out which people are providing value to society and which are not. Was this person's marketing material actually that valuable? Probably not. But obviously they need to make a living. Hopefully AI will force us to either do more productive things, or give us more leisure time to pursue things with higher meaning. Assuming we aren't enslaved by them of course.

Is AI then … not providing value if it just does the same job?

In some cases, certainly not! Companies will use AI to create all sorts of blogspam and filler content. But perhaps it's better for an AI to be doing it than for a human life to be wasted on creating such things.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Obvious fake story.

Since it's obvious, could you explain why you think that?

It's written in the frame of "I used to be a huge believer of not X, but now I learned X is true! And that gives me credibility!". No one talks like this except people trying to manipulate you.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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> This client is my main source of income, he’s a marketer who outsources the majority of his copy and content writing to me. Today he emailed saying that although he knows AI’s work isn’t nearly as good as mine, he can’t ignore the profit margin.

A core assumption is that his client will succeed with this change. Only time will tell. A thousand different outcomes are possible: the downstream client is upset by the reduction in quality and switches vendors; new entrants underbid the market further; firms start to differentiate on quality at a price premium, further eroding low end margins; the money saved on this is invested in new roles for to ensure marketing quality control.

The error is to believe that a given state of the world is static. It never is. Every day, millions of very smart and capable humans apply their minds to figure out how to make money by selling a product or service that satisfies. And everyday, what it takes to satisfy customers changes a little bit.

Posts like this drop all the context that led to such a job even being possible in the first place.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

#66

If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. What if there was a cheeseburger that was 50% as good as McDonalds but was only a nickel? That'd be real bad for the McD's share price.

This was the premise of McDs to begin with: They sold burgers for a dime or whatever while everyone else was charging fifty cents. The trick of drastically undercutting the market, of course, is to use innovation cut your costs, which the brothers did by serving such a limited menu that they could optimize the prep for speed.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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Why? I think the emphasis was on “marketing noise,” i.e. something no one wants or needs that is forced into peoples’ eyeballs against their will through paid advertising channels.

There is a perception among the broader public that techies want to automate all the jobs away and don't really care what the people displaced do to earn a living afterward. Bland, inadequate platitudes thrown out advising people to just go find a marketable skill in the new economy ignore the fact that the number of potential occupations that you can make a decent living doing has been shrinking for decades. If you'…

> If you're not a programmer, a doctor, or possess some other rare skill, you're fucked.

it's coming for these too

> A continuously growing underclass with continuously declining prospects is a recipe for violence and revolution if we don't start taking this problem more seriously.

the complete breakup of Microsoft, OpenAI, Google and Amazon will be on the political agenda in 2028

failing a political solution: violence will follow

there was a post yesterday that wished GPT-4 was never invented... it's one of Nick Bostrom's black marbles

https://nickbostrom.com/papers/vulnerable.pdf

by the end of the decade we're all going to be wishing it had never been invented

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. What if there was a cheeseburger that was 50% as good as McDonalds but was only a nickel? That'd be real bad for the McD's share price.

> If AI output is 60% as good as a person, but costs 1/1000th the price... what decision maker is going to justify paying 1000x more for 40% more quality? We're really in for it. Really depends on the type of output. For content marketing that most people are just going to skim over anyway (aka is just going to be used for blogspam/content farming, which is what it sounds like the linked writer was doing for this cli…

Are they 1/1000th the price, though? Because if it's 20-30% cheaper, I'd just buy a Pepsi which is already very cheap.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

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AI is going to really filter out which people are providing value to society and which are not. Was this person's marketing material actually that valuable? Probably not. But obviously they need to make a living. Hopefully AI will force us to either do more productive things, or give us more leisure time to pursue things with higher meaning. Assuming we aren't enslaved by them of course.

I think AI will be used to load up the amount of menial work that can extracted from you.

Re: It happened to me today: $80/hr writer replaced with ChatGPT

#70

Obvious fake story.

It might be fake, but I don't see why it's "obviously" fake.

This marketer is likely helping people with SEO. Search engines (allegedly) reward frequent, unique, backlinked content on a subject. Client is a dentist? Write a blog post a week about dentist-related things. Link to his other clients posts for backlinks, and everyone wins.

She says he's a freelance marketer, and subcontracts out to her. If nobody is really reading these posts anyway, does it matter if a human writes it? And if it doesn't matter... why not pocket that extra $80/hr himself? You know, until his clients do the same to him.

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