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Apple’s plunge in PC shipments is steepest among major computer makers

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Their EU pricing is just insane

Same in India. So much so that they are now being smuggled into India[1], there's a hefty profit to be made.

[1] https://appleinsider.com/articles/21/07/09/iphones-worth-134...

https://www.republicworld.com/india-news/general-news/in-mum...

Re: Apple’s plunge in PC shipments is steepest among major computer makers

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post #222

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The Macbook Air that's out right now is like 13.6 inches. The screen is much better than the 2012 models, so with the resolution it will feel as big probably if not bigger.

But the Air has a lower resolution than a 15inch 2012 MBP? 2880 by 1800 vs 2560 x 1664.

I switched from a 15” Intel to a 14” M1. The screen is WAY better, but certainly somewhat smaller. As you note, pixels are still pixels.

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Apple have been wildly successful in selling Rolls-Royces to the masses. In pretty much all categories they've entered, Apple are considered to be the premium brand. However the masses generally don't need the level of engineering that Apple products typically feature - people have been compelled into forking out for it in order to status match with their peers (e.g. the green/blue text thing). Now times are tight, t…

> Apple have been wildly successful in selling Rolls-Royces to the masses This analogy doesn’t make any sense: a Rolls Royce comes with a significant price premium, whereas Apple products tend to cost about the same as equivalent quality PC/Android devices, often cheaper in the M1 era, and most of the cost factors directly benefit the core function of the device whereas what makes a Rolls cost an order of magnitude m…

All I know about the green/blue text is the (possibly not real) trope of 'Ugh green [or is it blue?] text! I don't date poors who don't have an iPhone!'

At some point there was a big deal being made about Google taking your data and so 'stealing your mind' (can't disagree tbh). However, in attempting to monetize your base urges, I would respond that Apple is trying to steal your soul!

(no longer any affiliation to either company, though I was in Cupertino for a bit in a previous life)

Re: Apple’s plunge in PC shipments is steepest among major computer makers

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There are fewer and fewer reasons to buy new PC hardware as the decades have marched on. CPUs and GPUs have been overpowered for all but niche markets - and yes, gaming is a niche market. I've been averaging 7 years or more for my machines for a long time now; that was bound to show up in PC sales at some point. And i think people are still failing to account for just how muc mobile has utterly taken over most normal people's general purpose computing needs. Frankly I'm surprised PC sales are still as high as they are. I'm typing on a MacBook Pro right now and have zero desire to spend most of my computing time on a phone or tablet - but I also know I am in a shrinking minority too.

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Generally Apple users don't update their computers too often, and when they released the M1 models a lot of people had models pre-2016 that needed upgrading (since pos-2016 models sucked balls). So, part of that unusual demand was also customers finally upgrading their old MacBooks.

Also people that didn't need to upgrade their machines upgraded anyway cause the M1 jump was so significant. I was supplied a decently-specced late-2019 16-inch i9 MBP for work when I started in mid-2020. Basically about the best Intel MBP that ever got released. Then the M1's came, I got a 14-inch base model M1 Pro (which I calculate to have cost about 1/2 the price work paid for my machine) and it runs circles arou…

I had a similar i9 16'' MBP. Lasted 2h on video conference. New 14'' lasts about 9h. The Intel MBP tried to be too thin and failed at being a good laptop for work. It was still better than the previous generation with the garbage keyboard.

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As an avid Windows wizard who strongly dislikes Apple, I will give credit where credit is due: Apple's shit Just Fucking Works(tm). Seriously, they just work. An M1 or M2 Macbook Air is the ideal laptop and computer for the vast majority of people. Games? There are game consoles for games, which also Just Fucking Work(tm).

You can also play a decent amount of games on M1 Macs, but nothing spectacular or amazing. They can emulate almost anything with DirectX 11, but 12 is just not operational in any way at all. Most emulators work swimmingly.

Crossover - a commercial implementation of WINE by CodeWeavers - is indeed amazing!

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> the vast majority of Americans getting a couple checks from the government which basically cover the exact price of a new Macbook. Source? And source that they spent that income on MacBooks?

Here's the source they spent on MacBooks: "Apple (+111.5%)"

Exactly

Re: Apple’s plunge in PC shipments is steepest among major computer makers

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High priced luxury laptops aren't a big ticket item in a global recession.

And I have low expectations for how a luxury augmented reality headset is going to do in this recession.

Good thing the first iteration will likely be targeted at developers and not the mass market then, eh?
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