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Effective Spaced Repetition

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Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#81

I wrote this. Ask me anything!

Thanks for the great article, you've inspired me to take another shot at making a habit of learning through spaced repetition!

I had a question: how much time do you typically spend on this activity in a day? Do you have tips for how to adjust based on the time you have available?

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#82

This could do with some non-serif fontage. Effective learning includes having a typeface that doesn't get in the way of reading at smaller pointsize for a large segment of the population.

TIL -- I thought serif was generally supposed to be easier to read.

How is this kind of thing studied, and what kind of outcomes suggest "easier to read"? Speed? Recall? Subjective?

What proportion of the population are we talking about, roughly? Is it even enough that one should consider providing both a serif and a sans version of their content?

Serious question.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#83
post #77

A question to the experienced Anki users: The recommendation is to learn before you memorize. Many times I hack the infos (from an article) right into Anki. Now if it‘d want to review the infos in the Anki app, that totally destroys my stats. What are some of you doing? Extract the info into some other tool, review the infos there and then quiz yourself in Aki?

>that totally destroys my stats

I don't understand what you mean. There are only 2 stats that are mostly significant. The first is, when first learning the card, if you hit again too many times the card becomes a leech - as in it leeches your time, at which point you should temporarily suspend that card and to the others first.

The other one is the recall rate: after you learn a card (on default settings, when you hit the 1 day mark for that card) how often you don't fail to recall the information. This rate is the single most important metric in your stats, and a value that is constantly below 90% means you should probably tweak your settings to show cards more often. This can be easily done by reducing the interval modifier. A value close to 100% might also be slightly problematic depending on what you want, because you might be wasting time with unnecessary reviews, which can be solved by slightly increasing the said interval modifier.

As for your main question, you can do it however you see fit. Some people might prefer to do everything in Anki, while others might prefer to read a textbook, watch lectures etc. first and then move on to Anki for that specific topic. Don't use Anki as a way to quiz yourself, it is not a testing tool. If you want to test yourself, use question banks. Use Anki as a tool that will help you memorize things. For this, you have to do your reviews on time, or the algorithm just won't work.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#84
post #13

Big fan of spaced repitition, especially for language learning. Unfortunately I feel like it fares worse for topics that require more application instead of memorisation, like mathematics or electrical engineering. Would love know if there was some super effective way to learn these similar to spaced repitiion. So far, the only thing that really works for me is solving lots of problems until I have the technique mast…

The concept of "Kata" seems to be a popular repetitive method for learning/practicing programming skills: https://docs.codewars.com/concepts/kata/

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#85
post #13

Big fan of spaced repitition, especially for language learning. Unfortunately I feel like it fares worse for topics that require more application instead of memorisation, like mathematics or electrical engineering. Would love know if there was some super effective way to learn these similar to spaced repitiion. So far, the only thing that really works for me is solving lots of problems until I have the technique mast…

Is Duolingo basically spaced repetition for language learning?

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#86

I am a tournament Scrabble player and the state of the art for studying words is spaced repetition. You quiz on "alphagrams", like ABEISTT, and after a few times you just see BATISTE BISTATE. There are at least 80K words between 2 and 8 letters long though, so it does take many hundreds or thousands of hours to learn them all well. I have very poor studying discipline so I have my own methods of studying that don't u…

This is interesting to me. Do you make many permutations and use those as cards?

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#87
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

General advice for spaced repetition is to make flashcards atomic i.e. as small as possible, as in the OP, but general advice for language learning is to always learn words in context instead of on it's own, for example in example sentences. Have you figured out a solution combining those two goals?

For language you might be interested in the Clozemaster[0] approach. Basically, you are shown a sentence, both in English and the language you want to learn, and one of the words in either one is a cloze deletion, e.g.: English: there are thirty days in April. French: il y a trente ___ en avril And you have to complete the cloze with "jours". The sentences are compiled automatically from Tatoeba[1], the cloze deletio…

Could you detail a bit more your gpt4 usage for language learning?

I was wanting to get back into French and thought about using chatgpt, but I'm worried about it's hallucinations and teaching me wrong.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#88

I wrote this. Ask me anything!

Great article? I'm curious what your Anki settings are, if you've changed anything. I'm pretty new to the app, but when I hit things like "you'll need see this card in 5 years" I had to dive into settings and start tweaking stuff. I'm more concerned about definitely remembering it in say 12 months than having too high of a load. But there are many adjustments to achieve this, so any thoughts?

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#89
post #52

spaced repetition is dying for some amazing UX. it doesn't even really make sense for you to make flash cards. ideally they could be contextually created based on what you're viewing, e.g. you read a wikipedia article, it infers what you're reading from scroll position, takes content, makes cards, presents later, etc.

>it doesn't even really make sense for you to make flash cards. ideally they could be contextually created based on what you're viewing It does matter. You shouldn't train on a flashcard until you have learned the idea. The computer doesn't know if you actually learned what you read. Making the flashcard based on your own understanding is an important part of encoding the memory -- it's an active process, rather than…

It's well established in communities that use Anki a lot (like language learners) that someone else's pre-made decks aren't as effective as making your own.

This is indeed a usual claim. But given a reasonably good pre-made deck, I doubt it's universally true if you factor in the time it takes to make the cards.

I'm learning Chinese vocabulary with a pre-made deck. I devote 20-30 minutes per day (have been doing so for a couple of years), introducing 8 new cards per day. My success rate is typically worse than for most people who make their own decks (floating around ~80% for mature cards) but I see clear and steady progress.

If I wanted to create my own cards, I would probably need to slow the pace to around 2-3 cards per day tops (as deciding which cards to create and then creating them would take time which I wouldn't be able to spend studying), and they would have no audio, which the pre-made deck does and makes a difference.

Re: Effective Spaced Repetition

#90
Having tried spaced repetition methods for studying for swe interviews, I can concur that it is the most effective way for me learn.

It does require an intense amount of discipline though, so wonder how well it will work for me in execution for hobby learning.

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