Nothing to do with the article, but about the title: "Apple’s 40% Plunge in PC Shipments..." Historically, I've seen the term "PC" used to refer to Windows machines (not that it made much sense.) Has the term "PC" been generalized to also include Macs now?
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or a PC in general: > Global PC shipments tumbled to 56.9 million in the first quarter, down 29% from the same period a year earlier https://www.wsj.com/articles/pc-shipments-fall-29-led-by-dro...
Yeah, that's my bigger worry: that "desktop" (and then "laptop") are going to become niche platforms that only old-timers use. I dread our only-phone future.
I'm more afraid of laptops turning into phones, via Microsoft Store/ App Store, scary "unknown publisher" warnings, etc. It's getting harder and harder to run what you want on computers.
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#173Apples increase in sales in 2020/2021 was also the steepest among computer makers. Are modern journalists and business people really so dumb to think that spike trends will continue growing?
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> upgrades are nuts - it costs as much as an iPhone to get a storage upgrade that is like $100 with commodity SSD storage. I generally agree that Apple's SSD and RAM upgrades are too expensive. I'd like them to be cheaper. However, I'd like to point out that Apple's SSDs have built-in protection against data-loss from power loss which is usually an enterprise SSD feature. Also, Apple uses LPDDR5 on their Macs which a…
I know I would, and I dare say most people are the same, prefer to have the option for 3% lower memory bandwidth in exchange for 4x more memory. There’s no justification for Apple’s memory prices.
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#176As 'free money' is sucked out of the system (by reversing ultra low interest rates and QE), people are going to focus their spending on what they actually need - which often is not an Apple product.
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Yeah, that's my bigger worry: that "desktop" (and then "laptop") are going to become niche platforms that only old-timers use. I dread our only-phone future.
If you could dock a phone and use it with a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, and it had all the software you used, whorls you still be worried? Microsoft did this with Continuum in windows phone 10, and iPadOS is trying to grow up to support more multitasking and a keyboard+mouse. It’s not too far of a leap that the iPhone could do the same thing. This would also be a lot cheaper than also purchasing a laptop.
The problems isn't just the form factor. It's primarily that phones and tablets are significantly dumbed down, closed, and more user hostile devices. Windows is already trending more toward the phone experience with dumbed down interfaces, forced updates, telemetry, and ads baked in and it has made it all but unusable. I want less of that, not more.
Computers need to work for, and be owned by, the user. We had that, and we're rapidly losing ground.
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#178Still slightly higher than Q1 2020 or Q1 2019, so really just regression to the mean after the unusual spike in demand created by the pandemic. Source: https://www.statista.com/statistics/263428/apples-revenue-fr...
Generally Apple users don't update their computers too often, and when they released the M1 models a lot of people had models pre-2016 that needed upgrading (since pos-2016 models sucked balls). So, part of that unusual demand was also customers finally upgrading their old MacBooks.
I was supplied a decently-specced late-2019 16-inch i9 MBP for work when I started in mid-2020. Basically about the best Intel MBP that ever got released. Then the M1's came, I got a 14-inch base model M1 Pro (which I calculate to have cost about 1/2 the price work paid for my machine) and it runs circles around the work machine. I haven't run benchmarks or anything but in general performance, app startup time, even just how long it takes to redraw the desktop when I plug/unplug a monitor is night and day.
The Intel -> Apple Silicon jump is significant, but if you bought a specced out M1 Max or something, there's not going to be a reason to upgrade for a while.
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I think a lot of the 13" buyers will end up upgrading as they sound pretty tired about the lack of dual-monitor support.
Those who needed dual-monitor support probably didn't buy 13" MBPs/Airs to start with?
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I use iPhones for the “cuz it just works” factor, and with those M chips, I am tempted to make the switch from Windows PCs These days laptop PCs are unreliable across most brands I have tried and supplied with crapware and the operating system is hostile and forces stuff like OneDrive on you and begs you not to install Chrome. Last 2 years over 2 devices: Broken screen (not due to external) Touchscreen not working Li…
Their hardware are quiet good and often worth cost. But their software are barely average and services (iCloud et al) downright pathetic. Definitely much worse than OneDrive which in itself it’s not great. I mean any data I have in iCloud I assume it’s gone — I don’t even consider it a safe copy of mu data. There’s barely any transparency around it (which is actually Apple’s DNA - lack of transparency in general).