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How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by midoridensha »

gambiting wrote: post #179
kroltan wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regulation is "color print er s need telltales", not "color prints need telltales"

I do not believe that a colour laser printed can't switch to whatever tracking dots mono laser printers use when out of yellow ink. I'd believe laziness over compliance issues.

Citation needed about tracking dots on B&W lasers. I don't see why they're necessary: the main reason is for anti-counterfeiting. B&W lasers can't be used for printing counterfeit money, for what I hope are obvious reasons.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by OJFord »

optimiz3 wrote: post #103
OJFord wrote: post #95

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What're you printing? At some point I realised it was extremely rare that I printed anything other than a return label (and was doing so at the office while largely working from home, not that convenient), so I just got a label printer.

If you do anything financial, legal, or business frequently you have to provide PDFs of signed physical documents. Every quarter I have to print->sign->scan->email multiple forms. Inefficient and wasteful? Yes. Also required by law.

I don't think I do any less (or more) of that than normal/average. I managed to buy a house without one (by which I mean it never came up, not that I could work around it).

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by gambiting »

midoridensha wrote: post #201
gambiting wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not believe that a colour laser printed can't switch to whatever tracking dots mono laser printers use when out of yellow ink. I'd believe laziness over compliance issues.

Citation needed about tracking dots on B&W lasers. I don't see why they're necessary: the main reason is for anti-counterfeiting. B&W lasers can't be used for printing counterfeit money, for what I hope are obvious reasons.

I don't know if they have them - but the same argument still applies. If you're printing in mono then no tracking dots are necessary, therefore stop complaining about missing yellow ink.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by mthoms »

YuriNiyazov wrote: post #181
mthoms wrote: post #170

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Are you talking about something else? The article is about region locking which means, by definition, that the ink available in North America won’t work. Money isn’t the only consideration in these situations anyways. For some people it’s the principle. More directly to your point - the author plainly acknowledges the sunk cost fallacy at play here. I’m pretty sure he can do the math.

I’m talking about the snide remarks towards InstankInk throughout the article. The GP says that because the author prints 10 pages a year it’s a bad deal. I’m arguing that InstantInk is a great deal for someone that prints 10 pages a year. The author should’ve said “yea, I followed principles here, but honestly I should’ve gotten InstankInk from the very beginning” instead of crapping on it

How would he get instant ink in North America with an EU region printer? Would you trust an org this incompetent to do that properly... or at all?

Anyways, he plainly acknowledges the sunk cost fallacy at play here.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by MisterSandman »

Andrex wrote: post #167
MisterSandman wrote: post #146

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The Verge is honestly pretty great. Usually. It's the only mainstream tech news publication that feels like it's not bought out by every company (re: CNET)

The first sign I should probably stop visiting The Verge was Nilay Patel's fashion meltdown[1] Then a few years later they DMCA'd a bunch of YouTubers making fun of a Verge-produced PC building video[2]. 1. https://www.gawker.com/adult-website-editor-throws-twitter-t... 2. https://kotaku.com/the-verges-infamous-pc-build-gets-fixed-1... I realize Kotaku and Gawker aren't much better reputation-wise, but a journalism o…

I don't think those things are good at all (especially 2., that was a mess), but the Verge has hundreds of people working for them, and I think overall their content is amazing.

Nilay Patel is... uh, a mood, he's probably my least favourite part of the Verge.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by Andrex »

MisterSandman wrote: post #205
Andrex wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first sign I should probably stop visiting The Verge was Nilay Patel's fashion meltdown[1] Then a few years later they DMCA'd a bunch of YouTubers making fun of a Verge-produced PC building video[2]. 1. https://www.gawker.com/adult-website-editor-throws-twitter-t... 2. https://kotaku.com/the-verges-infamous-pc-build-gets-fixed-1... I realize Kotaku and Gawker aren't much better reputation-wise, but a journalism o…

I don't think those things are good at all (especially 2., that was a mess), but the Verge has hundreds of people working for them, and I think overall their content is amazing. Nilay Patel is... uh, a mood, he's probably my least favourite part of the Verge.

Those hundreds of people have agreed to assign their copyright to The Verge (Vox Media). They could be writing elsewhere or self-publishing.

Journalistic reputation is important for a reason.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by AshamedCaptain »

maccard wrote: post #200
AshamedCaptain wrote: post #137

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Sounds about right. Which would make this corner case about 5-10x more expensive than a laser, which is close but below one order of magnitude difference. At these points and with such infrequently printing, the cost of the printer itself becomes more relevant than the cost of ink, and that favors inkjets and inkjet multifunctions (e.g. dual-sided ADFs can be had for around 50€ inkjet, since they obviously under-pric…

Could you share what cartridge you're talking about specifically?

27XLL https://www.amazon.fr/Epson-C13T27914022-Cartouche-compatibl... is currently at 43€ and is rated for 2.2K pages.

Re: How to change the region on an HP OfficeJet printer in 57 easy steps

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Post by kuon »

mysterydip wrote: post #51
kuon wrote: post #50

Do you have a recommendation for a laser printer manufacturer with no locking (third party toner, ok...) and no steganography (invisible dots)?

Not sure on the invisible dots, but brother allows third party supplies: https://support.brother.com/g/b/sp/faqend.aspx?c=us&lang=en&...

I remember this:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131

I do not know how brother fares now regarding open supplies.

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