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Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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Can I ask a simple question: Why? I live in Europe, but AFAIK none of the places where I've lived/am regular even have an HN meetup. I have no idea we would want a splintered HN.

As an EU hacker myself, I'm not exactly crazy about this regional split - it feels unnecessary and artificial somehow. On the other hand, if we're going to have an alternative HN site, it will probably have to differentiate itself in some way.

Btw, apart from the issues of regional relevance (e.g discussing developments in Europe, avoiding US-only services, etc) there are some cultural differences too, which a European HN-like site might alleviate a little.

As a European I find a lot of american's grasp of economy and politics extremely naive (and if I read about Ayn Rand again, I will smash my monitor). Also, the sometimes extreme political correctness (which comes natural for some people) leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Now, those are peripheral issues, true, but they occur a lot of times in HN discussions.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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The problem with Europe is the multitude of languages. You can't target Europe with English language, or it will end up UK/US centric. That's pretty much unsolvable problem. Of course we can talk about things happening in Europe, but that doesn't make sense.

You're being overly pessimistic on the percentage of Europeans speaking English (though not necessarily as their native language). This language has worked as a common means to communicate for a long time and definitely won't leave this web site end up being "UK/US centric".

Almost everyone speaks English of course, but most people prefer joining communities in their native languages. Many of my hacker friends don't participate on English forums although they speak English pretty well.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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As an EU hacker myself, I'm not exactly crazy about this regional split - it feels unnecessary and artificial somehow. On the other hand, if we're going to have an alternative HN site, it will probably have to differentiate itself in some way.

For the hacking side, I don't see any reason for a split either. But for the business side, it would be very good to also have a EU community to help create a better environment here. Let's not forget that we (from the EU) can move wherever we wish in the EU to set up shop (or work), so it would be helpful to know about the opportunities, the problems etc.

This is important - doing business wherever you are in the world will always be subject to local customs in my view. This is despite increasing globalization; there will always be different languages, currencies, market structures, legislation etc.

One of the reasons we intend Lion to be more focused on the UK and the general business community.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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HackerStreet India has been doing ok for the last one year since launch - http://hackerstreet.in/ The objective was never to become the next Hacker News or replace it but just to have India centric discussions there. I would say Hackful has an equally good (or better) chance

I don't know. The thing is, a German person does not have a lot in common with an Irish person. They have a different culture, different media, a different language, different pop idols. If you are at some place in the Netherlands, it's more expensive to go to some other place in Belgium than to go to another place in the Netherlands, even if those are equally far away. I guess what I am trying to say is, Europe is s…

from Italy it is often cheaper to go to London, Paris or Prague than from Venice to Milan :) low cost flights beat trains all the time.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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This is the kind of comment for which I personally dislike the US centered mentality here on HN. To address briefly your points: war is over and we won War? I find a bit funny this mentality you have in the US to turn everything into a war (war on drugs, etc). In tech there is no war, we are all working to make the world better. One does not need to "lose" for the other one to "succeed". Moreover, the tech landscape…

I'm not inclined to disagree with you that the situation in the US is far from ideal in a lot of regards, but my personal experience (started a company [tanked] at 19, just closed accounts with my state and did tax paperwork, no repercussions, about to try again) tells me that regulations here are only somewhat of a burden, and the really bad ones are seen across the world soon enough to prevent us being disadvantage…

proclaiming that you too use US venture capital and the English language really is more a testament to American soft power than anything else.

No, it's not.

Regarding VC, it means that there is more money there now, that's true. But the fact that VCs are coming to Europe can be seen also as you losing that power you claim to have.

Same for language. I cannot deny that English spread mainly because it's the language of tech and the internet and that comes more from the USA (but remember that English as a language comes from England, Europe).

But language is just a tool to communicate. European countries are adopting it, but that does not mean they are adopting it to talk to you, or at least not only. English is becoming more and more a language to communicate across Europe. I am form Italy and have been living in the Netherlands for almost two years, without having to learn Dutch.

It also makes it much easier for people that want to leave the US, since they know they can come here and be able to speak to everybody.

My point was not to deny that there might be an imbalance toward the US for some things, but nothing is over and I won't be like this forever. China has been the most powerful empire on earth for millennia. It lost its power, but it might regain it in the future.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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I doubt it'll work. HN doesn't work just because it's there, it works because it has a certain traction among a certain community. Building up such traction is very difficult, and I doubt doing so by adding a link to it from a non-Europe-focused site is going to help much. Lamernews looked real cool the first 2 weeks as well, and then it mostly died out. How will Hackful be different? I mean, I'd love it to be differ…

> I doubt doing so by adding a link to it from a > non-Europe-focused site is going to help much.

Do you really think HN has no European visitors?

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

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Passwords... Again. I can't believe I still have to create an account. Even for a website like HN that I'm completely addicted to, I would've never signed up if it weren't for OpenID. You want me to use your service? Make it easy for me to authenticate, I don't need yet another password...

I only recently made the effort to switch to a tool like 1Password and it's great for creating on-the-fly secure passwords that I don't need to bother remembering.

I believe there's quite a few products that do a similar job.

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