Iran installs cameras in public places to identify, penalise unveiled women

Post by wizofaus » Sun, Apr 09, 2023, 1:37 AM UTC

1101010010 wrote: post #178

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The US is arguably the only country in the world where a significant % of citizens possess firearms. If US army decided to commit genocide against even some subset of those citizens, do you really think said firearms would help much? (Edit: more curiously, has there actually been an example of a democractically-elected government committing genocide?)

> If US army decided to commit genocide against even some subset of those citizens, do you really think said firearms would help much? It worked well for Afghanistan, also Vietnam.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 09, 2023, 3:04 AM UTC

4gotunameagain wrote: post #126

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It's real simple: "Don't take away my choice to wear what I want." For whatever reason, fragile people get real offended by what other people wear.

Do the people which get offended by nazi uniforms are fragile as well ? The topic is much more complicated than "fragility" as you are dismissively trying to portray it. We wear clothes in civilised societies for a reason, and different types of clothes have different types of societal effects. Your freedom ends where the the freedom of the next person's begins.

Post by nashashmi » Sun, Apr 09, 2023, 3:32 AM UTC

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It is the opposite. Feminists are fundamentally anti religion and anti establishment. If govt is railing against what women can do, feminists are the first to fight. If religion is dictating what women can/should do, feminists will be the first to fight. Feminists are to authority like atheists are to religion.

I had a conversation with a young progressive atheist woman about first hand accounts with women of Muslim backgrounds wearing the mandated clothing out of fear. She had a hard time accepting that what people said and how they acted publicly wasn’t the whole story. I used to smoke weed with some people that included some Muslim girls who would talk openly about what they were afraid of and the family pressures. If yo…

Post by dirtyid » Sun, Apr 09, 2023, 3:44 AM UTC

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You can start with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wounded_Knee_Massacre and follow with a middle school history book about Germany, China or about a dozen other nations.

China never had a citizenry widely armed with firearms. Germany was also never widely armed prior to Hitler. This is an urban myth. Only a handful of societies have ever had widespread civilian armament. Certainly not enough to make any kind of causal inference about the general effects of firearms on revolutionary or counter-revolutionary activity. And Wounded Knee? This was a continuation of a policy of Manifest De…

Post by defrost » Sun, Apr 09, 2023, 4:48 AM UTC

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Causality in global geopolitics is complicated, multifactorial, and generally very difficult to pin down. The original comment was talking about the perceptions of Iranians, and my comments speaks to the perceptions I have seen. US-Iran relations post-WW2 and why some Iranians see the US as a causal factor for the current repressive regime is a fascinating topic! If you want to explore, here are a few starting points…

At what point do we allow people (in this case the Iranian regime) to have free will / self agency? And also - we usually don't allow ourselves to go 50 years back to explain someone's behavior. At least in court - that kind of testimony wouldn't have much value.