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Meanwhile, feminists in the western world fight to wear a hijab, burkha, abaya, etc. and don’t see them as signs of oppression. I wish i understood the logic. Wish we could all stand up against this together.
See also the ongoing saga of what seems to be the Iranian government (literally, physically) poisoning school girls.
Do you have any recent news about this? The last thing I heard was when Khamenei eventually condemned the poisonings[1], which was a month ago? [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-64862714
The ISW covers it every now and then with their daily Iran conflict updates: https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/iran-update-ap...
> Student poisonings have resumed in Iran after approximately three weeks without reported incidents, indicating that the regime has failed to take the necessary security measures to permanently prevent these attacks. CTP recorded ten student poisoning cases on April 5, four cases on April 4, and one case on April 3.[1] The April 3 chemical poisoning attack on Iranian school girls in Naghadeh, West Azerbaijan Province marked the first of such attacks since March 13, as CTP previously reported.[2] The pause in student poisonings between March 13 and April 3 roughly corresponds to the Iranian New Year holiday between March 20 and April 2, suggesting that the recent respite from student poisonings was not due to the regime’s ability to effectively crack down on the perpetrators of these attacks, but because schools were not in session. The resumption of student poisoning attacks also indicates that the network targeting Iranian school girls still exists and retains the ability to operate in Iran.
> There are numerous similarities between the most recent student poisonings and the poisonings that occurred between December 2022 and March 2023. Students poisoned in recent days have reported symptoms—such as smelling a strange smell before becoming ill, dizziness, and headaches—which match the symptoms experienced by students poisoned in March.[3] Students from schools where poisoning attacks have occurred in recent days have additionally reported that school principals confiscated their cellphones to prevent the dissemination of news about the attacks.[4] School officials reportedly behaved in a similarly abnormal and unsympathetic manner during the peak of student poisonings in early March, as CTP previously reported.[5] Regime officials have largely disregarded the resumption of student poisoning attacks. Interior Minister Ahmad Vahidi stated on April 5 that he “could not confirm” the poisoning of students in Tabriz, East Azerbaijan Province. Vahidi added that “further investigations should take place,” but did not exhibit any sense of urgency regarding the recent attacks.[6] The regime’s lack of response suggests that it is incapable of preventing such attacks, does not want to acknowledge the existence of a network capable of instilling fear into the Iranian people, and still tolerates the poisoning of Iranian schoolgirls.
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> I've personally known 2 women from Iran who are not fans of the US foreign policy, but become red with anger and visibly shaking when talking about their govt's treatment of women. Why "but"? Those are usually the same groups of people.
Don't get it; 'but' seems to be very legitimate use. Intuitively, it is more likely that people who are not fan of US policies would be fan of Iranian govt's policies (you know because Iranian govt and US govt don't see eye to eye and all that..).
Oh sorry I misinterpreted this phrase. I read it as if it said "become red with anger when you criticize their govt's treatment of women". My bad.
Meanwhile, feminists in the western world fight to wear a hijab, burkha, abaya, etc. and don’t see them as signs of oppression. I wish i understood the logic. Wish we could all stand up against this together.
The point is the power to choose, not the result A or b.
Meanwhile, feminists in the western world fight to wear a hijab, burkha, abaya, etc. and don’t see them as signs of oppression. I wish i understood the logic. Wish we could all stand up against this together.
It's real simple: "Don't take away my choice to wear what I want." For whatever reason, fragile people get real offended by what other people wear.
Update (context): I am not talking about the people in west who want to (not)wear hijab. I understand the premise of that choice. But this word (choice) is used daily in government propaganda. Maybe its analogous to talking about the choice of working in a cotton field to a slave. It’s a whole different environment/context. Hence my negative reaction to this word. It’s a matter of feeling which I just expressed. Nothing against someone who has a real choice, without religious stigma.
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It's real simple: "Don't take away my choice to wear what I want." For whatever reason, fragile people get real offended by what other people wear.
Is it really a choice when you are talking about religion? I am from Iran. In the school they teach (scare) children that if you don’t wear hijab, you will be hanged from your hair and burned on a stick till eternity in hell after you die. By the way that subject is not elective. You have to pass it. What kind of choice is this? Update (context): I am not talking about the people in west who want to (not)wear hijab.…
See also the ongoing saga of what seems to be the Iranian government (literally, physically) poisoning school girls.
However the Iranian regime helped move the Overton window within Iran in a direction that led to school girls getting poisoned for going to school.
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> This reminds me of the "guns don't kill people" argument. So you're telling me if we banned cameras in Iran, women would no longer be oppressed?
That's not what they said. Oppression would still be present. The issue is the impact and influence protestors could have had simply wouldn't be possible as any dissent will be met with a knock at the door the moment it is uttered.
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The point is the power to choose, not the result A or b.
"Power to choose" in the eyes of law and general society, as advocated by feminists, is not much use if women's family, relatives and other close community strongly disapprove and don't respect that law.