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Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
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Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#862Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have an LGCX and if I hadn't connected it to the internet I would have missed out on some important software updates that significantly improved the display performance. I guess you can toggle the internet on and off when updates are published, but it's not the most convenient solution. Edit: But you can use a USB! Woohoo, thank you repliers!
You can update the firmware on LG TVs with a USB drive, no internet required.
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Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#863Earlier quoted context omitted.
DIDs are great but there are two main problems with them: 1. They appear to be more expensive than consumer TV’s 2. They might be more difficult to find through usual channels because they are targeted at businesses (but it probably depends on where you are located)
Well if you're unwilling to pay more for it then you've kind of conceded the manufacturers' argument, haven't you?
Would smart TVs be loss leaders without all the telemetry or merely less profitable?
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#864Wow, others have said it but they really missed the point. Most of it is just kind of annoying because they're missing the point, but this sentence really stuck out to me (snipped to only show the important parts, there's a bunch of stuff in the middle that's also annoying): "By connecting to the internet [you get] security and features updates". Did they seriously argue that you need to connect to internet, otherwis…
There are other attack vectors of a TV. For example, most TVs have a usb. Imagine an attack in which an attacker gains physical access to your TV and loads malware onto your TV via USB. Now the infected TV is communicating with a nearby WIFI hotspot to upload the audio recordings from the TV's microphone (that exists for voice commands). I think the TV is malware out-of-the-book if connected to a network connection.…
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Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#865Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are other attack vectors of a TV. For example, most TVs have a usb. Imagine an attack in which an attacker gains physical access to your TV and loads malware onto your TV via USB. Now the infected TV is communicating with a nearby WIFI hotspot to upload the audio recordings from the TV's microphone (that exists for voice commands). I think the TV is malware out-of-the-book if connected to a network connection.…
The idea is that if the TV does not have WiFI or microphone capabilities, none of these are security issues.
Exactly. The attack vector that matters in practice is having an internet connection and a bunch of unnecessary built-in spy devices and protecting against that is as easy as not having them and allowing people to make their own choices from different vendors about what will be most secure if they do want them (it's easier to replace a Roku or whatever than an entire TV if it stops getting security updates or is found to have a bad privacy record or whatever).
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#866Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keep us updated. I'd likely pay 2x what I payed for my LG C2 for a "dumb" version. Even if just to support such a project.
But would you pay 2x for an industrial panel? These panels might last longer at brighter drive outdoors and in well lit areas but they won’t look anywhere near as good as a consumer OLED for viewing movies and gaming because of both panel and processor. Seems like a different (and wrong for this use case) set of priorities. My OLED LG CX is not on the network - the UI is - it’s fine, I haven’t found the LG UI to be t…
The only thing annoying about the OLED LG TV at least C9 version i have is that it wont allow you to airplay unless you're connected to the WIFI. So you need to add a custom rule that doesn't allow the TV access to the public internet only the local LAN.
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#867Search: digital information display Samsung 4k https://www.samsung.com/us/business/displays/4k-uhd/qb-serie... It's more expensive then the subsidized ones, but right in the description: QB65B--N * Direct-Lit 4K Crystal UHD LED Display for Business Without Embedded Wi-Fi or Bluetooth As others have suggested as well, possibly a monitor, but I'm not aware of many 65" 4k monitors (But they may exist)
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Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#868Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have one of these and was happy with it until it decided to use the notification system to nag me. 1. Lots of ads of local TV stations on the system update notifications. 2. Often it nag me about other random things too, like asking me to change the brightness settings or telling me that using the TV for too long is unhealthy. 3. Often it decides to stop work properly unless I accept license agreements. Sometimes I…
It’s doing all this tuff without an internet connection? Did you update the firmware since you bought it? I’ve never seen anything like you describe on mine.
I made the mistake of letting it update. :(
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#869Wow, others have said it but they really missed the point. Most of it is just kind of annoying because they're missing the point, but this sentence really stuck out to me (snipped to only show the important parts, there's a bunch of stuff in the middle that's also annoying): "By connecting to the internet [you get] security and features updates". Did they seriously argue that you need to connect to internet, otherwis…
There are other attack vectors of a TV. For example, most TVs have a usb. Imagine an attack in which an attacker gains physical access to your TV and loads malware onto your TV via USB. Now the infected TV is communicating with a nearby WIFI hotspot to upload the audio recordings from the TV's microphone (that exists for voice commands). I think the TV is malware out-of-the-book if connected to a network connection.…
But… the tv isn't connected to wifi so how would it communicate to the nearby wifi?
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#870"just don't connect it to the internet" is such a typical HN response that completely misses the point. A smart TV with no internet connection is still a smart TV. It still has an entire operating system that needs to load wifi, ethernet, Bluetooth, usb driver stacks. It still has an awful, flashy interface that adds unnecessary steps between changing inputs. It still tries to load god knows what apps every time you…
So that OSD menu, you don't want it to be localizable or accessible with voiceover? No need for customizable picture modes, high quality 1080p to 4K upscaling, wireless surround sound setup, non-line-of sight BLE remote? Since you like to live off the grid, wouldn't it be helpful if ATSC tuner could get over the air program guide and let you record stuff you like to a USB stick? If not, well it's your life, but that'…
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