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Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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You also can't take the Ramadan as a normal fast. This is a religious rite that might actually inspire more forgiving behavior becausenot its religious nature.

Comparing the effect of different fasting duration only across judges who fasted during Ramadan most likely removed the influence of religion-inspired forgiving behavior.

How would it? They are all practicing muslims. How could you correct for a trait that is present in every one of the study participants?

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

If you look at the replies you'll see the huge variety of responses people have to this, which is absolutely fascinating. I think this might actually be different for different people.

I suspect it has to do not with being different people but with gut biome (so it can be different for the same person at different points in time, maybe even something we can change by changing our diet or surroundings).

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Whichever way it goes, justice is supposed to be impartial and blind.

In it's judgement, not in it's scheduling. Scheduling when cases are viewed based on the probability that they will be difficult doesn't break that promise. But if there is a correlation whereby simpler cases tend to be dismissed while more complicated cases tend to stick, that means you end up with a correlation (not causation) between time of day and case outcome, but that doesn't mean it's biased or affected by hunger.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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I’ve gone on multiple 3-5 day fasts and disagree (or at least haven’t gotten to this point). My hunger seems to stabilize at very hungry after about two days.

Haven't gone 3-5 days but done more than 1 day, hunger paradoxically goes from high to low/none in 24 hours. I can feel weaker but not hungry the way I feel at first. After adjusting to rare meals I 100% feel better after 8 hours of not eating than when I eat often. Do you spend physical effort during that time? Eg. exercise, move heavy stuff, intensely walk. (I don't) Also what do you eat/drink before you fast. If I…

Same. I’m over 24 hours into a fast right now. Zero hunger. I guess it’s different for person to person, kind of like just about everything seems to be.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve gone on multiple 3-5 day fasts and disagree (or at least haven’t gotten to this point). My hunger seems to stabilize at very hungry after about two days.

Same here. My hunger plateaued after two days, but didn't go away, just became a bit more bearable. 12 days was the longest fast I've done.

12 days with no food? Like just water and electrolytes etc.?

This is some spartan discipline.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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From my experience, I think clearest when my body is not busy digesting. Just as you say my experience is a delusion I can suggest that perhaps your feeling of expanded attention and horizon could be a fallacy caused by your attention in fact becoming more limited as your body diverts blood (and so oxygen) from your brain to your stomach and gut for food processing (which takes hours, so if you eat 3 meals this is ba…

One thing I found quite astounding while fasting is how keen my sense of smell is. I normally don't smell much at all, but while fasting I can smell every restaurant in a 2 mile radius. I guess it's mostly my brain filtering out "irrelevant data" (the location of food becomes relevant when you're hungry!) That made me wonder if my other senses might be sharper while hungry too. As hunters, I imagine our ability to pl…

Do you suffer from allergies/chronic rhinitis by any chance? I have hyposmia because of rhinitis.

But I get the same - go without food for a while and my sense of smell increases until I eat and become satiated.

Now whether it’s related to certain allergens that I eat or the body/senses becoming less sharp I do not know.

Probably worth investigating a bit more, I never really dug deeper into this.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…

From my experience, I think clearest when my body is not busy digesting. Just as you say my experience is a delusion I can suggest that perhaps your feeling of expanded attention and horizon could be a fallacy caused by your attention in fact becoming more limited as your body diverts blood (and so oxygen) from your brain to your stomach and gut for food processing (which takes hours, so if you eat 3 meals this is ba…

> From my experience, I think clearest when my body is not busy digesting.

Exactly. Digesting is also kind of a burden to your focus, which is why one should not work directly after eating, especially if it was a heavy meal. But digesting ends at some point, after which you do have excessive energy available. So the point is to know roughly how long each meal will burden your body, and plan accordingly when you will reach a performance-high.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

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