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Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Yes. That is why all the PhD students provide donuts at their defense.

Ah bribery... Hmm, somewhat interesting how we as society have come to accept it in situation like these. I wonder if more research will lead to banning it and punishing people from even attempting. Then again people deciding on punishments are ones that benefit from the bribery so very likely not.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

#22

I'm a daily faster for the past 20 years, so I can attest (anecdotally) to the benefits of working while hungry. Once you adapt, after a couple weeks, instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. After all, despite the trappings of modern society, we are a predator species. Hunger gets shit done. When I was a kid, I recall the teachers always telling us to have a good meal before a test.…

> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…

I believe that pushing the body to limits such as fasting, hot/cold baths, intense workout can help us in the longterm. But for when we need our brains to work at its highest potential in the immediate such as software engineering all those things, how is having a hindrance such as hunger anything but a distraction?

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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post #11

I always schedule my appointments at 1PM for this exact reason (lawyers, doctors, etc..). I want them at their best, happiest selves.

And a lot of them will walk in the room talking about that lunch and how much they enjoyed that lunch and then I can congratulate them on that.

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…

I believe that pushing the body to limits such as fasting, hot/cold baths, intense workout can help us in the longterm. But for when we need our brains to work at its highest potential in the immediate such as software engineering all those things, how is having a hindrance such as hunger anything but a distraction?

You don’t feel hunger.

If you adapt to a 18:6 or even 20:4 schedule, you don’t feel hunger.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

+1. And I’ve noticed about myself that the amplitude or my “peak” hunger drops significantly as I sustain more days of intermittent fasting. So the hunger becomes more tolerable, so to speak.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

#26

Yes. That is why all the PhD students provide donuts at their defense.

This supposedly also happens to become a Submariner at the final counsel vote after a few weeks of being dragged through the mud. Dragged through the water?

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe that pushing the body to limits such as fasting, hot/cold baths, intense workout can help us in the longterm. But for when we need our brains to work at its highest potential in the immediate such as software engineering all those things, how is having a hindrance such as hunger anything but a distraction?

You don’t feel hunger. If you adapt to a 18:6 or even 20:4 schedule, you don’t feel hunger.

I ate once a day for years. You can easily ignore hunger, but your body/brain isn’t going to preform as well.

It’s like being mildly dehydrated or sleep deprived, yes you can still function but no it’s not optimal.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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Interesting bias on the bias: the author of this article seems not to have experienced a prolonged fast themselves, otherwise they'd know this is not true at all: > "longer fasts – and thus, presumably, greater hunger" As anyone who has fasted for probably any reason can tell you, the longer the fast the less hungry you are overall AFTER an initial peak. Meaning, miss a meal and you are hungry, miss two and you becom…

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Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

#29
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> instead of being irritable when hungry, you mind feels clear and focused. From my experience, it's a delusion. The focus is there for some while, but the actual abilities decline very fast without you even realizing it because of this supposed clearness. It might be even that the clearness comes exactly because of your mind limiting itself to a shorter attention and horizon, removing all the complex and complicated…

I believe that pushing the body to limits such as fasting, hot/cold baths, intense workout can help us in the longterm. But for when we need our brains to work at its highest potential in the immediate such as software engineering all those things, how is having a hindrance such as hunger anything but a distraction?

Another perspective would be that when your body switches to survival mode due to adverse circumstances (such as cold or hunger), it mobilizes all its physical and cognitive resources. When the body is fighting for survival, it's about everything. This is probably the reason why many people report that they are capable of peak performance in this state. The body usually doesn't give more when it has more, but does the opposite. It saves and conserves its resources for worse times.

Re: Do judges give out tougher sentences when hungry? A study too good to be true

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The conclusion I get from both studies is that small influences can have very large effect on judges ability to give out sentences. If Muslim judges are 10 per cent more likely to acquit a defendant for every additional hour of fasting they experienced, and that decision according to the study is more accurate, then Muslims shouldn't be making sentences outside of that effect. For non-Muslim judges there is no difference so no need to apply the same restrictions.

I suspect that such conclusion would apply much too great significance to that study.

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