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Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?

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#822
Please stop calling internet connected devices that spy on peoples behaviour to sell targeted personalised advertisements smart.

Dumb spying devices:

* Smart Phone, ad phone * Smart Watch, ad watch * Smart TV, ad tv

Possibly the older device was smarter since that did not spy on you.

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#823
post #821

Buy a smart tv but dont connect it to the Internet no Wifi, no lan cable. Instead connect and use offline video sources such as Blueray, VLC.

I don’t know why this isn’t the answer. I’m sure there will be some people who will bring up, “but it will connect to an open wifi network” argument; but that isn’t common in many places and it still will probably force you to agree to terms and conditions which the TV won’t be able to do.

Also what many people have missed is that the promise of data collection revenue is what has made TVs unbelievably cheap. It’s crazy that you can get a 70” for less than $500.

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#824
post #419

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15605423 It’s a classic HN reply

Here’s the proto-reply: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

Ha! I should have known. I've, in jest also, used the archetype here myself.

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#825
post #788

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a licensing expert but my general vision is that if we can get assistance from community firmware designers, I’d be more than willing to champion this initiative. Would love to create an evaluation board that others could utilize around come up with their own interpretation of a perfect display.

Are you likely to use Linux on your device? Would be great if we could run standard distros on your TVs.

Are you sure you're looking for a not-smart TV?

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#826

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not a licensing expert but my general vision is that if we can get assistance from community firmware designers, I’d be more than willing to champion this initiative. Would love to create an evaluation board that others could utilize around come up with their own interpretation of a perfect display.

Look, every TV UI is slow . But how can games have responsive UI on 8-bit hardware? People are doing things wrong. You have a real chance here of having a UI which is instant .

Because 8 bit hardware was realtime? It's quite difficult to implement everything we expect likely nowadays without multiprocessing... realtime Linux exists but it's not a panacea

Honestly to compete with mass market TVs, it's going to be difficult to avoid have more- not less "bloat". Built-in Android would be a great selling point (saves you $200 on a NVidia Shield as long as it doesn't track you or lock down features). Built-in AI upscaling is a good selling point.

I would also think if you have a OLED or edge/direct LED backlight LCD then you also need to run much more complicated pixel/zone brightness algorithms....

There's probable more memory allocated per frame on a modern 4K TV than an 8-bit computer had in total.

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#827

The HiSense TV they recommend underneath "Buy a new TV but don’t connect it to Wi-Fi" is NOT a good choice if you're not going to use wi-fi. It will regularly cut away from whatever you're currently watching and ask you to finish setting up the Google assistant thing. Or sometimes it will audibly say "I'm sorry, I can't find you're wifi connection.." at random times, even though you never attempted to enable wi-fi. T…

They don't test stuff, they just mention products that exist and pocket affiliate commissions. The Internet you are looking for no longer exists.

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#829
post #821

Buy a smart tv but dont connect it to the Internet no Wifi, no lan cable. Instead connect and use offline video sources such as Blueray, VLC.

I don’t know why this isn’t the answer. I’m sure there will be some people who will bring up, “but it will connect to an open wifi network” argument; but that isn’t common in many places and it still will probably force you to agree to terms and conditions which the TV won’t be able to do. Also what many people have missed is that the promise of data collection revenue is what has made TVs unbelievably cheap. It’s cr…

I don't want something actively hostile in my house. I don't want to set up countermeasures to protect myself from something that I own.

Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?

#830

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But who/what are you calling "idiot" and why? I would never think of calling that a plain HDTV set - it is still a technological marvel (and also would have all kinds of "smarts" built in anyway, just no apps or wifi).

Yeah.... I never purchased any books in the "For Dummies" series out of self respect.

Beginning Programming for Dummies isn’t too bad.
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