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Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?

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Too bad they didn’t list the “not worth it” panels.

I get most of my TV from free to air streaming apps and other streaming services, and I used a HDMI switch. So I can physically label the different devices.

I’d love a shitty panel with no features.

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Color calibration - I'm not entirely sure what would be involved here, TBH. "Professional" in this context would be what a pro home AV installer[1] would look for, not what a Hollywood color grader would need. TV Tuner - Yes. An ATSC tuner with a COAX antenna input that can auto-scan for receivable channels. If this isn't feasible anymore, then I guess the HDMI input doesn't need ARC. Connectors - looking at your pho…

In that case, I would say that color calibration is very easy to accomplish and having the connectors facing down is something I was already planning to do. Our industrial displays are typically mounted 15-20ft in the air, so customers have an easier time accessing them from the side while on their lift. As for outdoor TVs, that's a whole other Pandora's box, but yes, we also make those displays, mainly for digital b…

That circular display is amazing

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I bought a TV recently and "didn't connect it to the WiFi", but guess what it does? If can't connect to the internet for a certain period of time, it desperately wants to display a "Internet Connection Error" message that puts the entire display into a state where CEC doesn't work, so the whole damn thing is useless.

I am frankly surprised they do not all do this, and predict they all will. There will be no "don't connect it to the internet" nor even "use a pie hole" solutions possible, because the manufacturers will intentionally block them

Use monitor and smart TV dongle?

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#735

I've designed and built many such TVs for the commercial/industrial vertical. I am currently working on developing such a TV for the consumer market and launching it under the name DUMBO.TV Let me know your thoughts. Reference pix of 70" industrial display using Samsung LCD panel and in-house LCD controller with physical OSD menu buttons along with IR/RS232 control capability: https://imgur.com/a/k6zrH3s

Is there any chance whatsoever that you can use open source software/firmware for it? I am not in the market for a TV and I am only a hobbyist with a tendency to spend more than I should on anything that lets me open the hood and tinker with it. If there is any consumer electronics company that wants to be the anti-Apple, I'd support it in any possible way. Seriously, I even wonder if there could be some type of "Pat…

I'd love a list of products that are open-hardware or open-source source software or just even open enough to easily use them using open source solutions.

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You're going to want to change that name... Disney... They have the class 9 Trade Mark for Dumbo, and call out: "television sets;"[1][2]. [1] https://search.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/search/view/115... [2] https://files.littlebird.com.au/Shared-Image-2023-04-08-06-5...

Yes, going to take care of that. Thanks for the heads up. I really looked that one over...didn't think too much of it as the domain was available. It's hard to do anything the easy way nowadays!

Might I suggest monsterenergy.tv

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so, a monitor

TVs have decent built-in speakers, a remote, probably more inputs, antenna/cable tuners, and a focus on large sizes, while not being so optimized for low-latency input.

Sure, but the guy I replied to said

> It should have exactly as much processing power as is required to pipe an hdmi signal to the panel and nothing more. [...] I'd even prefer it not have speakers.

So I think a monitor is what he wants.

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#738
What HN reader would actually suggest "don't connect it to the Internet" as a viable solution? In almost all cases it just leads to the TV nagging you after a while. So unless one considers frustration and not being able to use the device as a solution, how on earth is that a solution?

HN crowd making a great display of short sightedness here...

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I think a Pi4 with Kodi etc. is still way better for privacy.

Agree with this. If Apple ever really turns to the Dark Side, many here would be screwed.

Apple is already an advertising business

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#740

"just don't connect it to the internet" is such a typical HN response that completely misses the point. A smart TV with no internet connection is still a smart TV. It still has an entire operating system that needs to load wifi, ethernet, Bluetooth, usb driver stacks. It still has an awful, flashy interface that adds unnecessary steps between changing inputs. It still tries to load god knows what apps every time you…

> It should turn on in seconds, not minutes.

Dear god, has this become a thing??

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