Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to be careful. My Samsung smart tv throws up a splash screen whenever any HDMI input is plugged in or wakes up, which can only be dismissed by using the remote. Sometimes it even shows a few frames of the HDMI input before switching to the splash screen. Infuriating!
This kills me about the Apple TV. It didn't used to display an ad for Apple's channels but now it does and it requires the remote to dismiss... Previously you could just blindly airplay something but now you have to airplay + dismiss the ad with the remote.
Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
681–690 of 1001 posts
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#682Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "A smart-but-disconnected TV can meet all of those functional requirements, and your nonfunctional requirements" Ehhh I beg to differ. I got a Sony TV a year or so ago with Google TV built in. It's been a nightmare - the GUI is basically unusably slow (literally 5 entire seconds from button press to response) and the whole experience sucks. So I did what most reasonable people did - plug in some HDMI device that do…
Are you using HDMI-CEC? You shouldn't be touching your TV remote at all. You shouldn't need to set a default HDMI input. All you have to do is press any button on the AppleTV remote and it will turn on the TV with the correct input device selected. I have a 2 year old Sony TV with GoogleTV and it works fine. I can go directly to a PS5 and Switch by just turning on the respective controller.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#683Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#684Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ads are really the least of our worries. Data about attention (viewing habits) is so immensely valuable, who knows what the next generation will do to obtain it? Years ago, the TV execs told us not to have a private conversation in the TV room. We all know how very easy it would -- if they wanted -- to exfiltrate your data in a variety of ways: Kismet, group Xfinity/Fios wifi passwords, or even ultrasonic beacons bet…
Running a Samsung Tv for example thru pihole can solve a lot.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#685"just don't connect it to the internet" is such a typical HN response that completely misses the point. A smart TV with no internet connection is still a smart TV. It still has an entire operating system that needs to load wifi, ethernet, Bluetooth, usb driver stacks. It still has an awful, flashy interface that adds unnecessary steps between changing inputs. It still tries to load god knows what apps every time you…
Children are complaining, but this is exactly right. Yes, I can work around the device connecting me to the internet. What I’d really prefer though is to exchange whatever cost went into the shit add ons, the Bluetooth, the speakers, the wifi, the usb, and put that into a better display. Done. I’m sure there’s a good business reason why this simple, obvious project is not what’s in the market.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#686Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's only disconnected until your neighbor's AP decides to advertise an open guest network for it to automatically connect to.
There's no evidence that smart TVs actually do that, aside from a few scant anecdotes from reddit.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#687Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, this. I bought an LG OLED C2 recently, plugged in an Apple TV, have not connected the TV itself to the internet. Works absolutely fine; bonus is that the apparently annoying voice control option is disabled. You don't need firmware updates unless there's a specific bug that you need fixed, and you can update by USB stick if you do need a fix.
I also got a C2 and briefly connected it via WiFi before I had the Apple TV. After hooking up the Apple TV I turned WiFi and thought I was all set, but it keeps turning WiFi on by itself and checking for updates which is really annoying. Might do a factory reset to clear out the WiFi password.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#688Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Networks with no password and no captive sign in portal are extremely rare nowadays. In my suburban-American experience, they are in fact they are more common these days as more consumers purchase and own ISP-provided equipment. > But also are there any actual confirmed cases of TVs doing this? Given the nature of proprietary closed source software, I am willing to accept a less than charitable assumption of what t…
Which ISPs are giving out APs with no key needed and no captive portal? Every one that I’m aware of requires some manner of secret to login to the shared AP.
Re: Ask Wirecutter: Can you recommend a not-smart TV for me?
#689Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, this. I bought an LG OLED C2 recently, plugged in an Apple TV, have not connected the TV itself to the internet. Works absolutely fine; bonus is that the apparently annoying voice control option is disabled. You don't need firmware updates unless there's a specific bug that you need fixed, and you can update by USB stick if you do need a fix.
I see a lot of people buying the C2. Is this the undisputed winner for a new 4K television? I am vaguely in the TV market but am mildly intimidated by the variety.
Edit: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/best/tvs-on-the-market