The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
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Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#2Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally?
What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to have their own uncensored model?
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#3Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally? What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to…
Was it profitable for Cygnus? Red Hat? Android? MySQL?
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#4Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally? What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to…
None of these companies are really directly concerned about profitability. Right now the leaders in ML models are going to be defined by those who have the most capital available to train newer and better models. And the quickest way to get that capital is largely getting investors on board. From that perspective it’s quite rational to release something publicly in a way that is likely to raise the profile of your company. Especially in a world where your main competitors will be training their own models anyways.
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#5Stable Diffusion was obviously never intended to make money, but as a Napster-style maneuver to enclose all image data on the internet through AI picture generation. They release something to the public that would get sued into oblivion were it done by an established company, but oops, the genie is out of the bottle, what you gonna do, the only choice now is to restrict it to a few power players who can actually do the necessary rights management. Artists and photographers will get the same shit deal musicians did in the streaming era, i.e. an algorithmically determined pittance for use of their work. Don’t like it? Oh well, either settle for that or people will fine-tune a pirate model on your work in half an hour!
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#6Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally? What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to…
Was it profitable for Cygnus? Red Hat? Android? MySQL?
Not MariaDB
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#7Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally? What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to…
Was it profitable for Cygnus? Red Hat? Android? MySQL?
I only see something like SD to be attractive for personal uses, not corporate. That is why I mentioned a person, not a company, as a customer.
If your product is tested and guaranteed to certain standards, like MySQL and RedHat, then that is something a company may pay for. But a user doesn't really have that high standard so they can be satisfied with just the off brand, derived stuff floating around.
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#8Just a question but is it ever profitable to base a company around an open source product the way SD is? Why would anyone pay money to use the company's model when some guys on Reddit is distributing a similar product, albeit with lower performance, for free, that can be run locally? What would be the incentive for a person, not a company, to pay Stability AI company instead of downloading and doing a bit of setup to…
We should outlaw government spending on closed source, non public domain software. That would create a huge market for open source companies to thrive. Would be a win win for everyone (except the current closed vendors who provide government with crap software and get sucker taxpayers to foot the bill).
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#9Stable Diffusion was obviously never intended to make money, but as a Napster-style maneuver to enclose all image data on the internet through AI picture generation. They release something to the public that would get sued into oblivion were it done by an established company, but oops, the genie is out of the bottle, what you gonna do, the only choice now is to restrict it to a few power players who can actually do t…
To put it politely, your comment is bullshit. Stability AI is a billion dollar company with hundreds of millions in funding.
Re: The company behind Stable Diffusion appears to be at risk of going under
#10Calling them "the" company behind Stable Diffusion is pushing it. Just Stable Diffusion the model, but not the idea, maybe.
As far as I know they pretty much just paid for servers to train a big shiny model on that was based on research they had no hand in. Throwing money at researchers after they came up with something good, just to let them build a big shiny version of it, does not retroactively make their accomplishments yours.
Basically they hold no rights to anything relevant, no patents, no secret sauce, nothing. Them going under after exhausting their money will hardly have any effect.