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Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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Unless your product is something that builds on Twitter's platform, I wouldn't recommend it. It means your users don't have a choice about how they're authenticated to your site, and A) Failwhale, anyone? B) Twitter doesn't provide serious options for protecting their users' login credentials. It's the same username/password combo which is easily phished & replayable. Sadly, I've pretty much given up on the hope that…

From a dev's point of view I really feel that OpenID/OAuth is absolutely not worth the headache. I'd rather just go the hacker news model. Choose a strong password and if you forget it, we send a new one to your email address. Works fine, offloads a lot of security issues to email providers (who tend to be good at it), easy to code.

I'd rather just go the hacker news model.

I use Hacker News with OpenID ;)

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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The reason people pick Facebook only is because they think that losing users that don't use Facebook is better than having to implement your own account system.

Authorization and account management is really easy to screw up. If you leave it to Facebook, you'll save a lot of time. The only question is whether or not it's worth it.

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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The reason people pick Facebook only is because they think that losing users that don't use Facebook is better than having to implement your own account system. Authorization and account management is really easy to screw up. If you leave it to Facebook, you'll save a lot of time. The only question is whether or not it's worth it.

Surely there's a way to avoid implementing your own account system that doesn't drag in the massive unrelated architecture of a Facebook, Google, or Twitter. You don't even need SSO like OpenID.

Is there a company that just sells a no-frills user enrollment and login service and also provides strict isolation between sites? (I.e., they resist the temptation to leverage their aggregate user base.)

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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I never put a FB Connect button, but some people complain because they are used to logging in with one. It's a pain because it's another platform you have to support if you're a developer. What happened to the days when you just had to implement a simple website for 1 browser, without having to worry about multiple browsers, supporting iPhone, iPad, Android, and enabling Facebook/Twitter/OpenID logins, and finding fr…

What happened to the days when you just had to implement a simple website for 1 browser, without having to worry about multiple browsers, supporting iPhone, iPad, Android, and enabling Facebook/Twitter/OpenID logins, and finding friends through facebook/twitter/gmail? Do you really yearn for those days? Think about what you can build now vs. what you could build then.

I could build the next Mint w/o people saying "How is that different from Mint?". I could build Twitter w/o people saying That's like Twitter! I could build the next Match.com w/o people saying "But everyone's in Match.com!"

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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The reason people pick Facebook only is because they think that losing users that don't use Facebook is better than having to implement your own account system. Authorization and account management is really easy to screw up. If you leave it to Facebook, you'll save a lot of time. The only question is whether or not it's worth it.

Surely there's a way to avoid implementing your own account system that doesn't drag in the massive unrelated architecture of a Facebook, Google, or Twitter. You don't even need SSO like OpenID. Is there a company that just sells a no-frills user enrollment and login service and also provides strict isolation between sites? (I.e., they resist the temptation to leverage their aggregate user base.)

Wouldn't that pretty much describe any open id provider?

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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There's a good chance that if FB is the only sign-in option, I will immediately close the window and never use your service. It's pretty much an insta-bounce for me for the exact reasons cited in the article.

Me too, because I don't have a FB account. I actively avoid one. I'm being excluded from marketing campaigns, contests, and give-aways because I don't trust FB with my privacy.

>I don't trust FB with my privacy.

Then open an account, and don't upload private info to them?

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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post #9

There's a good chance that if FB is the only sign-in option, I will immediately close the window and never use your service. It's pretty much an insta-bounce for me for the exact reasons cited in the article.

Me too, because I don't have a FB account. I actively avoid one. I'm being excluded from marketing campaigns, contests, and give-aways because I don't trust FB with my privacy.

I have a pseudonymous Facebook account with no one friended and no personally identifying information that I keep around basically just for using services that expect me to have a Facebook account.

Re: Why Facebook Connect Shouldn't Be Your Only Sign-in Option

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely there's a way to avoid implementing your own account system that doesn't drag in the massive unrelated architecture of a Facebook, Google, or Twitter. You don't even need SSO like OpenID. Is there a company that just sells a no-frills user enrollment and login service and also provides strict isolation between sites? (I.e., they resist the temptation to leverage their aggregate user base.)

Wouldn't that pretty much describe any open id provider?

Well, when I look at http://openid.net/get-an-openid/ I see Google, Yahoo, Livejornal, Hayes, Blogger, Flikr, Orange, Mixi, MySpace, Wordpress, AOL...

There are six 'simple' providers listed. Spot checking: One of them has broken SSL (https://www.myopenid.com/signup sources https://api-secure.recaptcha.net which has an invalid certificate). One of them looks completely broken for new accounts: http://claimid.com/register "This account is hidden or does not exist."

And of course there's this: http://www.untrusted.ca/cache/openid.html which describes various security and privacy problems with OpenID.

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