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Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by skummetmaelk »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #241
csomar wrote: post #205

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You are not missing anything. It's a bubble. This is tech 101 and all over again. You gotta hype some new thing whether it's Web 2.0, Crypto or AI. LLM have proven to be great as a gimmick or making rather okay localized approximations. You can create a good enough image without any designing skills, or have auto-completion on steroids. However, there is no proof that this same tech can extrapolate to the next level.…

You couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the single greatest leap in productivity we’ve had in the last 100 years. Last week, I used GPT-4 to write my code. Later, I used it to analyze 100+ websites and come up with a personalized pitch for a relevant plugin/product idea - something that would have taken me 100+ hours.

Ironically you've proven you have no value add over GPT-4 by choosing to use it to complete your tasks.

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by CGamesPlay »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

> I’ve seen examples of “write an email to my boss”. It would take me longer to explain to ChatGPT what I want than to write these myself.

You can integrate ChatGPT here to help with the proofreading and editing. If you have a list of points, you have have ChatGPT write an email, then integrate its changes. This is useful especially if English is not your first language. ([append]) Here's a quick example. These emails aren't great, but might be better than what I can come up with myself in 2 minutes. https://pastebin.com/dD22gR4y

> I’ve seen “write a snippet of code” demos. But I hardly care about this compared to designing a good API; or designing software that is testable, extensible, maintainable, and follows reasonable design principles.

It's super helpful when starting in a new space. I needed to write a python data munging script the other day. Using a few ChatGPT queries I found dependencies and understood the basics of using them. I still had to check the docs, but I jumped past the "tutorial" and straight to "API reference".

> In fact, no one in my extended sphere of friends and family has asked me anything about chatGPT, midjourney, or any of these other models. The only people I hear about these models from are other tech people.

Counter-anecdote, I met two copywriters working for media publications (non-tech) who both have had GPT-based services integrated into their workflows by the company management.

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by spondylosaurus »

eitland wrote: post #339
spondylosaurus wrote: post #229

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Notion going all-in on the "AI" stuff is annoying/concerning to me. Mostly just that I live and die by a personal Notion wiki to keep my life organized, and if they eventually tank their service by investing too many resources into features that don't take off and I have to find a new tool to offload my brain into, I'm gonna be pissed...

I went with Logseq and for the first time in a number of years (actually since OneNote 2016, the last self hosted version) I am actually happy with my tooling again. It doesn't cover everything OneNote 2016 did, but it does a lot more in other areas and it is progressing nicely.

This looks great! Do they have a (decent) mobile app? Being able to jot stuff down whenever, wherever is a make-or-break feature for me...

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by roer »

glandium wrote: post #293
nazgul17 wrote: post #267

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I found ChatGPT helpful in a bunch of diverse situations. I'll go into detail below, but overall I think the most valuable thing it can do is understand questions that takes both knowledge (that I don't have and want to acquire) and understanding (that prior AI technologies did not have) and provide meaningful answers. I suppose I find it very useful for my own education - with the understanding that I should use 2 o…

Be wary with ChatGPT and Japanese. As someone fluent enough and using ChatGPT for inspiration in writing, as well as to find words that either I have "on the tip of my tongue" but fail to remember, or find idiomatic expressions that I may or may not have heard of, ChatGPT can come up with weird hallucinations (Edit: to the point of making up words, I guess mainly because its tokens are at best at the character level…

Are you using GPT4 or 3?

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

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Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by roer »

skummetmaelk wrote: post #361
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #241

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You couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the single greatest leap in productivity we’ve had in the last 100 years. Last week, I used GPT-4 to write my code. Later, I used it to analyze 100+ websites and come up with a personalized pitch for a relevant plugin/product idea - something that would have taken me 100+ hours.

Ironically you've proven you have no value add over GPT-4 by choosing to use it to complete your tasks.

That seems like it supports his point pretty well. If he can use it to basically replace most of his work, then it doesn't seem like a bubble at all

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by jacquesm »

copperx wrote: post #357
jacquesm wrote: post #316

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It isn't in my experience. Understanding code that you did not write for a problem that you do not fully grasp is a lot of work. It's hard enough when you did write the code and when you do fully grasp the problem, which you'd have to if you were to write it yourself. Typically that's what first draft code is for: to see if you actually understand the problem.

Understanding the code of a fully fledged application is hard. But with ChatGPT you can build it piece by piece.

With a brain you can also build it piece by piece, in fact I don't know of any other way of writing a large software system than doing it piece by piece.

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by hutzlibu »

bionhoward wrote: post #275
nwienert wrote: post #204

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I mean Google revolutionized search. Apple revolutionized personal computing. OpenAI revolutionized… rewriting things with slightly different wording? I’ve seen so many breathless people posting “this would have taken me so long to search” and then I type 3 keywords from their massive prompt they crafted and find it instantly on Google. We’re talking 1000x or more faster. I feel like the same is happening in your com…

It’s a hype bubble for hundreds of years and saying that doesn’t make chatgpt worth any less. I have definitely been surprised by this and gotta say I’m expecting AGI a lot faster now. Even if literally all it did was predict what the average internet user would write in a certain context, that’s huge, cuz when you integrate all the little advantages of all the weird things one person knows another doesn’t, the colle…

"Who’s gonna trust a human doctor to diagnose their stuff if the human brain holds 9 things and the AI holds thousands?"

The human brain can hold much more than 9 things and even though AI will be used in medicine broadly very soon, I really want the final diagnosis done by a human.

Once true AGI arrieves, I might change my opinion, but that might take a while.

Re: What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by tomca32 »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

> I’ve seen examples of “write an email to my boss”. It would take me longer to explain to ChatGPT what I want than to write these myself.

You’re a better writer than me also English isn’t my first language.

Besides that I used chatgpt to write a eulogy for my father. I know roughly what I wanted to say but I couldn’t find a good way to say it. Chatgpt helped me there even in my own language (Croatian) and there is just no way I could’ve made it as poetic as it did.

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