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What it feels like to work in AI right now

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Post by uxcolumbo »

jrumbut wrote: post #248
nwienert wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean Google revolutionized search. Apple revolutionized personal computing. OpenAI revolutionized… rewriting things with slightly different wording? I’ve seen so many breathless people posting “this would have taken me so long to search” and then I type 3 keywords from their massive prompt they crafted and find it instantly on Google. We’re talking 1000x or more faster. I feel like the same is happening in your com…

I think this is a classic case of us overestimating the immediate impact and underestimating the long term impact. Right now, they are definitely useful time savers, but they need a lot of handholding. Eventually, someone will figure out how to get hundreds of LLMs supervising teams of millions of LLMs to do some really wild stuff that is currently completely impossible. You could spin up a giant staff the way we do…

I”m not in ML, so excuse this maybe naive question:

> get hundreds of LLMs supervising teams of millions of LLMs

What does this mean or what can you do with this setup… do you mean running LLMs in parallel?

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Post by bionhoward »

cgearhart wrote: post #201
brookst wrote: post #180

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You’re asking “what’s so big about GUIs? Literally nobody has asked to move a pointer around a screen”. It’s the use cases these thing enable that are important. Today, I wrote a draft product announcement. Only after I was done did I realize I had written it in a really impersonal third person (“users will be able to”). No big deal, but maybe 10-20 minutes of work to make it energetic and second person (“now you can…

Hmm…no, I’m not doubting the value of the interface. I’m asking what’s the “killer app”. Maybe I should just ask ChatGPT to explain it to me…

It’s programming. The thing is really great at programming, and everything else is icing on the cake. They already got my $20 a month lol

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Post by chociej »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

I use it to plan meals and make grocery lists each week. It's very good at that task, and it saves me a lot of monotony.

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Post by Buttons840 »

Dwedit wrote: post #73

If there's anything I learned from reading articles from the Xiph.org people, it's that neural networks work a lot better when you pre-process their inputs with an algorithm. They need far less information, and can run in realtime when most of the work is being done by traditional computation instead of doing it in the neural network.

This is the singularity. This is how it happens. The LLMs will pre-process their own training data. We've imagined AI will rewrite its own code and architecture, but instead it will make boring edits to petabytes of training data which will then improve its own training.

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Post by chasil »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

Parent article said the pressure was "be the first or be the best."

The proper answer is "to be correct."

Thousands of Africans sat at their desks, trying to achieve correctness.

This will become a (correct) commodity, but not today.

(Unless you are really good at differential equations.)

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Post by logicchains »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

Have you heard of "editing"? Or "translating"? Those are entire industries that can now be almost entirely automated with no loss of quality.

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Post by nsomaru »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #241
csomar wrote: post #205

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You are not missing anything. It's a bubble. This is tech 101 and all over again. You gotta hype some new thing whether it's Web 2.0, Crypto or AI. LLM have proven to be great as a gimmick or making rather okay localized approximations. You can create a good enough image without any designing skills, or have auto-completion on steroids. However, there is no proof that this same tech can extrapolate to the next level.…

You couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the single greatest leap in productivity we’ve had in the last 100 years. Last week, I used GPT-4 to write my code. Later, I used it to analyze 100+ websites and come up with a personalized pitch for a relevant plugin/product idea - something that would have taken me 100+ hours.

How did you provide the info for those 100 websites to GPT?

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Post by version_five »

cgearhart wrote: post #152

From my perspective it’s just _confusing_ to work in AI right now. We have some massive models that are doing some really neat stuff, and apparently hundreds of millions of people are using them—but I keep wondering: to do _what_, exactly? I’m not asking what the models can do, I’m asking what people want the models to do every day, all the time. I’ve been shown some neat pictures people made that they thought were c…

It's a hype bubble. There's a small group if die-hards in the tech-adjacent VC community that talk it up to no end and attack anyone who disagrees (I just saw a guy ask you if you were "virtue signaling" with your post - lol. And there's lots of people exploring how it could potentially be commercially useful - just like with blockchain. As everyone points out, it's got more going for it than blockchain did because it does something more tangible.

But the jury's still out on the long-run commercial potential of pretty good autocomplete or chat-as-search. It's probably more than zero (like blockchain), but it won't "change everything".

I'd guess that 90% people either agree with your observation or don't notice / care. It's just that these things bring out the vocal defenders, usually a sign people know deep down it's a bit of BS and post out of insecurity

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Post by uxcolumbo »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #241
csomar wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are not missing anything. It's a bubble. This is tech 101 and all over again. You gotta hype some new thing whether it's Web 2.0, Crypto or AI. LLM have proven to be great as a gimmick or making rather okay localized approximations. You can create a good enough image without any designing skills, or have auto-completion on steroids. However, there is no proof that this same tech can extrapolate to the next level.…

You couldn’t be further from the truth. This is the single greatest leap in productivity we’ve had in the last 100 years. Last week, I used GPT-4 to write my code. Later, I used it to analyze 100+ websites and come up with a personalized pitch for a relevant plugin/product idea - something that would have taken me 100+ hours.

How did you use it to analyse websites?

Did it go scrape stuff for you or did already have the data or did you paste in the website data?

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