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Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#111
ok, so i've had this on my mind for some time now, and i'm going to highjack this thread in hopes of getting this out there.

Hackful has sort of shot itself in the foot by trying to use HN as a medium to expose itself. for a long time now HN has started to cross the line from a place for people to share ideas and experiences with running a startup to a place for people to link to tutorials and hot topics in the tech world, or high ranked questions from SO (i'm guilty myself). I really don't see why we do this, we have r/programming, et al for that. HN is a place to talk about statups.

look at Hackful. I ran through the first 3 pages and here are the topics. i broke them down by irrelevan, relevant, and something i call the grey area, where it could go either way. the count is very off. i could only pick 20 out of 45 posts as 100% startup relevant. or course my opinion is my opinion and i'm sure there are people who will argue that my lists are debatable, and they are, but that's not the point. the point is that it is not 100% on topic, and we need to figure out a way to fix this.

one way is for the community to have the correct mindset and get involved and fixing the issue: 1) don't post irrelevant topics. 2) if we see off topic posts - since there isn't really a way for us to stop that now - just ignore them and let them disappear. we come to HN to read about startups, if we want programming info, tutorials, etc then there are other places to go (reddit, so, etc).

another option is to go sort of the reddit-route and allow for subs. that's an option, but again we would be diverging from the original purpose of this site.

just shooting out some thoughts, and trying to make us think about where we're going with HN.

irrelevant list: (count = 11)

8 reasons for switching to Git(blog.fournova.com)

Git cheat sheet(blog.fournova.com)

How we are using Big Data to solve Social Travel(tripl.tumblr.com)

The switch from apache to nginx(news.ycombinator.com)

Top 10 IT skills in 2012(ciozone.com)

Nicnack for easy multicast testing(adventuresinfabric.posterous.com)

Only 6% of Wikipedia Readers Have Ever Edited Wikipedia Content !!(thetecnica.com)

Tech in "Hollywood Edition"(aaronklein.com)

Teach yourself Git in two minutes(jperla.com)

Show Hackful: Browser Based Strategy Game (Spoils Rotten)(spoilsrotten.com)

Show Hackful: My Digital Guidebook Startup (Artworm)(artworm.hillsbede.co.uk)

relevant list: (count = 20)

Show HF: Cubecolor, a fancy HTML5 colorscheme generator(plainas.github.com)

Dutch startup is building the most simple customer support software in the world(apo.io)

Startupbootcamp to shape up Berlin(venturevillage.eu)

Ask HE: What are the missing pieces of the European ecosystem?

15 startups from Berlin - there is more than Soundcloud, Wooga and Amen(netzwertig.com)

Who is missing from this list of young entrepreneurs to watch in 2012?(yourhiddenpotential.co.uk)

Twitter developer teatime in Berlin(techberlin.com)

Tallinn, Riga, Vilnius, Helsinki - We Have A Problem(arcticstartup.com)

Show HE: My first RoR-app... a platform for winning a dribbble invite.(showwwdown.com)

Berlin Startup Jobs. Marketplace For Inspiring Jobs(berlinstartupjobs.com)

Marketplace for Startup jobs in Berlin(berlinstartupjobs.com)

SEO Tool & Collectible Card Game. Boost Website Traffic - SERPs & Spyders(serpsandspyders.com)

Ask Hackful: Do UK angel groups work?(t.co)

Flagons Den Beginners' Poker(london.flagonsden.com)

EatSocial - 2nd Feb(eatsocial.net)

A local European Angel List

London needs a place for hackers to hang out

Citymapper - Find your way FAST(citymapper.co.uk)

Show Hackful: adscaped - Monetisation without compromise(adscaped.com)

Digital Shoreditch festival 2012(digitalshoreditch.com)

grey list: (count = 14)

Ask HE: Is the source open?

Hacker News

Tell HE: Hackful sounds (and looks) too much like Hateful

Hackful Team: API please?

Who registered @hackful? Can we have it please?(twitter.com)

Hackful Team: Can we have a daily roundup email please?

Is it ok to post articles in other european languages?

Tell HE: Please improve the contrast between comments and comment-attributes

Hackful Team: RSS feed please!

Founder of german ridesharing startup gives his car away (flinc.org)

Facebook S1 Filing (Official IPO Document)(sec.gov)

Whispero(whispero.com)

Longform - for lovers of essays(longform.org)

Openbrand(eu.techcrunch.com)

Edit: cleaned up the links

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#112
I have to say that I'm a bit conflicted about this.

On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with "splitting" HN, especially by geography. The main reason being that news that would interest only hackers in a specific region/country wouldn't see the light of HN's front page, as global readers just wouldn't care as much. As a matter of fact, I even run an "HN splinter" myself, for Israelis (https://bitorama.com), and I'm pretty hopeful about it.

That said, the EU is a pretty big and diverse place. Would a guy from Romania or Finland be more likely to find stories that interest him in an EU-wide site rather than in HN? I'm not convinced. Maybe a more regional approach is required.

Then again, I could be proven wrong. So best of luck to the guys running the site!

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#113
post #73
post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an EU hacker myself, I'm not exactly crazy about this regional split - it feels unnecessary and artificial somehow. On the other hand, if we're going to have an alternative HN site, it will probably have to differentiate itself in some way.

First sharing with each other Then a very relevant calendar And finally a local Angel List Would those be useful, or superfluous?

If the first point just happens on HN, that wouldn't preclude the second and third point, right?

So -- possibly superfluous, yes.

(EU person myself)

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#114
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First sharing with each other Then a very relevant calendar And finally a local Angel List Would those be useful, or superfluous?

If the first point just happens on HN, that wouldn't preclude the second and third point, right? So -- possibly superfluous, yes. (EU person myself)

The key is accessibility - what relevant communication do you get out of Hacker News? If HN DOES fulfil your needs, then great. If, like many of us, local matters then Hackful is extremely exciting IF we can get the community owning/using it.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The number one reason for me would be because lots of the things covered on HN tend to be US focused to the point that people forget anywhere else exists. I'm tired of articles praising some service provider or payment processor only to find they are US-only and may support the EU in 'the future'. I'm tired of rants about carrier practices that only affect the US as if it is universal. I'd like to see a site where th…

I'd like to see a site where there is an actual consciousness that not everyone is living in the United States of America. Well, if our lobbyists do their jobs properly, mere accidents of geography will not keep you out of the fold. :) Moreover, sorry dude, the tech war is over and we won. We've got better funding, better language, better regulations, and better spirit--and sadly, not a lot else. EDIT: (and yes, not…

> the tech war is over and we won

Excuse me? I've just evaluated all possible virtual hosting services, and by far the best is in Germany.

I know dozens of people who hate the US passionately because of high-horse comments like yours.

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#116
post #112

I have to say that I'm a bit conflicted about this. On the one hand, there's nothing wrong with "splitting" HN, especially by geography. The main reason being that news that would interest only hackers in a specific region/country wouldn't see the light of HN's front page, as global readers just wouldn't care as much. As a matter of fact, I even run an "HN splinter" myself, for Israelis ( https://bitorama.com ), and…

> Would a guy from Romania or Finland be more likely > to find stories that interest him in an EU-wide > site rather than in HN?

That was my thinking too. There are lots of small countries with relatively small hacker communities that don't generate that much news on a regular basis.

That said, I've always struggled finding EU-based services, so this might be their chance!

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#117
post #47
post #5

Let me start off by saying that this is a great idea, and maybe we do need more HN-like sites as HN currently has a usefulness monopoly as far as my news browsing habits are concerned. On a more constructive note: please implement an RSS feed.

I can't do without an RSS feed either. Hacker News has the top spot on my iGoogle page and if I can't put Hackful next to it, I'll probably forget about it real soon.

RSS is now live

http://hackful.com/posts/90

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#118
post #6
post #5

Let me start off by saying that this is a great idea, and maybe we do need more HN-like sites as HN currently has a usefulness monopoly as far as my news browsing habits are concerned. On a more constructive note: please implement an RSS feed.

Yes, RSS feed please. Pretty please. pleeeez!

Your wish has been granted by the genius that is Elias (@8bitpal)

http://hackful.com/posts/90

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#119
post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd like to see a site where there is an actual consciousness that not everyone is living in the United States of America. Well, if our lobbyists do their jobs properly, mere accidents of geography will not keep you out of the fold. :) Moreover, sorry dude, the tech war is over and we won. We've got better funding, better language, better regulations, and better spirit--and sadly, not a lot else. EDIT: (and yes, not…

> the tech war is over and we won Excuse me? I've just evaluated all possible virtual hosting services, and by far the best is in Germany. I know dozens of people who hate the US passionately because of high-horse comments like yours.

I would be curious to know which service that is, and what boxen they run, and what company made those boxen.

In hindsight I realize that probably just opened the door to a pissing match over whose contributions to software/computing/startup culture is greater, but I think that would be an interesting conversation to have here.

EDIT: To get the ball rolling, we've got

Matsumoto : Ruby : Japan

Ericsson: Erlang : Sweden

Torvalds : Linux : Finland

Re: Hackful - A Hacker News for Europe

#120

Yes, lets rule out the country that provides us with a userbase for most of our sites. Surely there's nothing relevant there? Hands up if you have an English-language website in which the US is not the largest segment of users?

> Yes, lets rule out the country that provides us with a userbase for most of our sites. With the greatest respect, that kind of silly assumption is exactly why a Euro-centric HN-style site is potentially interesting to those of us here in Europe. I can think of numerous ideas for businesses aimed at a particular kind of culture or niche interest where the US probably wouldn't be a particularly big market. In any cas…

Incidentally, I'm an Irishman in Germany, and here's the usage for the main site I work on. We didn't look for an American market. Do people have very different experiences?

1. United States 29.69%

2. India 6.76%

3. (not set) 6.57%

4. United Kingdom 5.56%

5. Canada 4.05%

6. Germany 2.86%

7. France 2.36%

8. Australia 2.15%

9. Italy 1.86%

10. Japan 1.86%

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