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What risks? The vaccines are safe and effective.
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lol, what kind of nonsense is this.
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That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent home to keep non-insane people safe!
Would you count smokers and obese people as also "insane"? Those are also two massive predictors of (all cause) mortality.
They can be pretty seriously in denial, trying to pretend it's not a problem because it's too hard to do something about.
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That's why everyone still got covid after 3+ shots.
That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent home to keep non-insane people safe!
I'm not ignoring it as I have eyes and can read and understand information. The lack of critical thinking in this country is astounding.
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This is just anecdotal, but I personally have lingering issues from my vaccinations - I started experiencing moderately intense joint pains a few weeks after my booster shot, and they've been cyclically recurring for the past 15 months. I was afraid that it was Rheumatoid Arthritis and saw multiple rheumatologists, who told me that the vaccine likely caused my issues, and that they had seen a big uptick in young men…
Keep preaching that the vaccines cause trouble and you'll find trouble--whether or not it actually exists. Anecdotal evidence is useless, VAERS "evidence" is useless--it exists to provide hints as to where to look for trouble but doesn't prove trouble no matter what pattern you see because it can be just a reporting issue.
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This is just anecdotal, but I personally have lingering issues from my vaccinations - I started experiencing moderately intense joint pains a few weeks after my booster shot, and they've been cyclically recurring for the past 15 months. I was afraid that it was Rheumatoid Arthritis and saw multiple rheumatologists, who told me that the vaccine likely caused my issues, and that they had seen a big uptick in young men…
Keep preaching that the vaccines cause trouble and you'll find trouble--whether or not it actually exists. Anecdotal evidence is useless, VAERS "evidence" is useless--it exists to provide hints as to where to look for trouble but doesn't prove trouble no matter what pattern you see because it can be just a reporting issue.
Many people in my close circles got the shot then rushed to the emergency room within usually 24 hours to severe heart pain. And all these people continue to get covid even after having taken the shot. So glad I did not risk it.
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What risks? The vaccines are safe and effective.
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I think a lot of people have a hard time with statistics. It's understandable. It's not intuitive and you are not "stupid" because you have no training in statistics.
From a public policy standpoint they are safe and effective. There really is no disputing that. We are talking over 10 BILLION doses across 70% of the human population. If they were not safe and effective society would have completely collapsed. It would be Mad Max.
I think the scale is very confusing. It's hard to think in the billions. At this scale the amount of adverse reactions will reach into the millions, but you are still looking at a very small probability. 1%, 0.1%, 0.001%, 0.0001% all get muddled up in people's minds. If you have no training in statistics these often "feel" like the same numbers.
The average lifetime risk of dying in a car accident is 1 in 100. You probably know someone whose died in a car accident. If you think about long enough, you know multiple people. You (probably) still drive. With "the vaccine" we talk about adverse reactions in the millions. Often single digits. One in a million. Five in a million. 10 in a million. In some cases you may even get into three digits! 100 or 200 per million. But even 1,000 in a million reduces to 1 in 1,000. Even if you stretch it out to something ridiculous like that you still end up an order of magnitude less than the kind of risks people generally consider safe.
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That's why they survived COVID. I know everyone likes to ignore this now but hospitals and morgues are still overflowing with the unvaxxed. They should be sent home to keep non-insane people safe!
I'm not ignoring it as I have eyes and can read and understand information. The lack of critical thinking in this country is astounding.
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Would you count smokers and obese people as also "insane"? Those are also two massive predictors of (all cause) mortality.
Smokers and the obese are largely based in reality. The smokers aren't linking nicotine patches to government microchip implants, and the obese aren't staying fat to try to block out the 5G signals.
Have you considered that some of the crazy sounding people might be intentionally associating crazy ideas with a counter establishment movement? So that the movement is discredited by association.
The establishment has a clear incentive to do this, I would be kind of surprised if they were so pure as to abstain from it. Sure, some gullible people actually go along with the crazy, but I think those are likely a small minority of the counter establishment movements by people count.
The transitive negative social vibes of the crazy ideas makes non-crazy people reluctant to discuss such counter establishment movements in public. E.g. perfectly rational reasons to be cautious about a new vaccine platform are drowned out by and associated with crazy ideas about microchips and 5G, like you say.