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Embeddings and their relationship to each other are definitely relevant to transformers. Why do you think that's not the case?
gptX embeddings aren't even words. Even so, the embedding relationship is useful but not the core of what transformers do to find relationships between words in sequences.
Simply explained: How does GPT work?
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#192I’d be interested in hearing from anyone who takes the Chinese Room scenario seriously, or at least can see how it applies to any of this. I cannot see that it matters if a computer understands something. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, and your only need is for it to quack and walk like a duck, then it doesn’t matter if it’s actually a duck or not for all intents and purposes. It only matters if you…
I literally lost a friend of thirty years yesterday because she is wedded to the Chinese Room analogy so fiercely, she refuses to engage on the subject at all. For all the terrible things people worry about ChatGPT doing, this was not one that I thought I was going to have to deal with. (edit: ChatGPT was not involved at all, but when I suggested she give it a try to see for herself, that was the end of it.)
This sounds like you said "I cannot possibly be friends with someone who does not believe that LLMs are emerging AGI!", and people read it like that and are downvoting you.
I'm gonna assume the situation was more complex, but still find it hard to imagine, how a disagreement over such an academic topic could end up destroying a friendship.
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What would be the differentiating factor(s) for true AI/intelligence in your opinion?
Having a world model
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#194I’d be interested in hearing from anyone who takes the Chinese Room scenario seriously, or at least can see how it applies to any of this. I cannot see that it matters if a computer understands something. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, and your only need is for it to quack and walk like a duck, then it doesn’t matter if it’s actually a duck or not for all intents and purposes. It only matters if you…
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people trying to see what, if anything, differentiates ChatGPT from humans. Curing cancer etc. is useful, as is ChatGPT, regardless of how it achieves these results. But how it achieves them is important to many people, including myself. If it's no different from humans, then we need to treat it like a human---well no, strike that, we need to treat it _well_ and protect it an…
I don't think there's anything wrong with it either. It's an important debate. I just think the arguments usually become very circular and repetitive. If there's nothing an AI could ever do to convince you that it's thinking or reasoning, then really you should be explicit and say "I don't believe an AI can produce human thought or human reasoning" or "an AI is not a human" and nobody will disagree with you on those…
But that's the point, they do. Even on HN there are many comments saying that humans are just fancy autocomplete, i.e. there's no fundamental difference between humans and LLMs.
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> that there are no demons underneath Given that Lacan already proposed the unconscious as structured language-like more than half a century ago and described attention in his turn on Freud's impulse in favor of his concept of derive , we may say, this is pretty much where our own demons live. (I actually do think that revisiting Lacan in this context may be productive.)
We need to form some sort of guild of engineers who think Deleuze, Latour, Lacan et caterva should be read within our disciplines.
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(I'm going to be brusque for the sake of the argument, I very much could be wrong and I don't even know how much I believe of the argument I'm making.) > chatgpt doesnt just feed us back answers we already taught it True, there is some structure to the answers we already taught it that it statistically mimics as well. > It learned relationships and semantics so it can apply that knowledge to do something novel Can yo…
I took the basics of a dream I had, and asked it to turn it into a short story. the result was pretty good. Is it using stuff already to seed its responses? sure, but thats what we do to. Nothing you do or say wasn't taught to you. But these are not simply parroting responses. I said this to chatgpt: I had a dream that me and my friend were in a car accident, and we had a choice in deciding how to use 1 hour. we coul…
If nothing we do or say wasn't taught to us then where did all human knowledge come from in the first place? This doesn't hold up.
(Again, being direct for the sake of argument, please forgive any unkindness.)
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The evidence is ChatGPT's output. Unless you're saying that passing the bar exam, writing working code, etc. doesn't require abstract reasoning abilities or a model of the world?
It's a large language model. It is fed training data. It is not that impressive when it spits out stuff that looks like its training data. You are the one asserting things without evidence.
It can also write code for novel use cases that have never been done before. I gave it a task like this a few days ago and it got it right on the first try. There are literally millions of empirical data points that contradict you.
Re: Simply explained: How does GPT work?
#200I’d be interested in hearing from anyone who takes the Chinese Room scenario seriously, or at least can see how it applies to any of this. I cannot see that it matters if a computer understands something. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, and your only need is for it to quack and walk like a duck, then it doesn’t matter if it’s actually a duck or not for all intents and purposes. It only matters if you…
Let's say we're trying to build a calculator that only needs to do integer addition. And we decide to build it by building a giant if-else chain that hardcodes the answer to each and every possible addition. And due to finite resources, we're going to hardcode all the additions of integers up to absolute value N, but we will increase N over time.
Everything you said applies equally to this situation: it quacks like a duck, and when we talk about things it can't do we have to continually move the goalposts each time a new version comes out. It also has the property that there is a "scaling law" that says that each time you double N you get predictably better performance from the system, and you can do this without bound and continually approach a limit where it can answer any question indistinguishably from something we might call "true understanding".
But I think it's a bit easier to agree that in this case that it's not "really doing" addition and is a bit short of our wish to have an artificial addition system. And if someone touts this system as the way to automate addition we might feel a bit irritated.
Again, many people will say that this is a bad analogy because LLMs operate quite differently, and I'm not trying to argue for or against that. Just trying to give my explanation for how a certain understanding of the facts can imply the kind of conclusion that you are trying to understand.