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Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by varun_chopra »

sometimes_all wrote: post #56
varun_chopra wrote: post #32

Reminds me of the time I bought lunch at work, and a colleague told me exactly what I bought and how much I paid for it. I called him out and said it was a lucky guess, and then he proceeded to tell me my entire payment history for the past 2 days. Turns out when I was buying lunch, he was on the phone with a friend who worked at Paytm and that guy gave away my transaction history for shits and giggles. My trust in p…

Was this just Paytm's history, or all of your digital payments history (ie all transactions outside Paytm)? I'm guessing it's the former, but I'm just too paranoid to not ask...

Yes, it's the former.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by ctvo »

mikece wrote: post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

> Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

This is an easy way to excuse Tesla's behavior. You're implying everyone does it. What can ya do, right?

There's 0 evidence other car companies are allowing PII like this to be spread internally, and employees are so brazen as to use them as the basis for memes.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by giantg2 »

manigandham wrote: post #22
meindnoch wrote: post #15

You bought a car with always-on cameras and always-on telemetry. What did you expect?

Customers expect privacy.

What they expect and what they are (currently) legally entitled to can be separate things. Same goes for the rights you were taught that you have in school and how they actually work in the legal system.

Edit: why disagree?

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by varun_chopra »

kdkdifo wrote: post #57
lisasays wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm so glad I've never heard of that service and have no idea what it is. Thanks very much for calling them out by name, BTW. Presumably someone from that company is reading this as we speak - and soon enough, will be reporting back to us that that employee has been identified, and of course, duly fired. Right, PayTM? (BTW - that's some "colleague" you have).

Justice is when an Internet mob gets someone fired based on an unsubstantiated comment on an anonymous forum. We did it Reddit!

My name is here, my profile has my website which in turn has my Linkedin. There's nothing anonymous about what I'm doing.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by squarefoot »

It may seem paranoid, but it is sane to expect that everything that it is closed and consequently not auditable for security and privacy, and goes online on a network we have no control over, even though not a public one, will soon or later be used for spying.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by netsharc »

throwaway50609 wrote: post #42
mikece wrote: post #21

Wake me up when there's an EV that is just a car and not an always-connected surveillance device on wheels.

[flagged]

Is this FUD, or you got any links? AFAIK the EU regulations require only an on-board system that can call emergency services after the car detects a collision, yes it means requiring a modem that can transfer GPS coordinates (to make it easier to locate the accident), it doesn't mean (again, AFAIK) "has to be connected at all times".

Again, I'd google it myself to see if what you're claiming is true, but I have a hunch it'd just be wasting my time because someone makes a wrong claim online. But hey, maybe I should start baking the humble pie while waiting for the citations from trustworthy sources?

Edit: you've replied to other comments saying "lookup eCall". That's what I described in the first paragraph. Not "connected all the time". Throwaway commenter writes bullshit, news at 11!

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by lnsru »

Wanted to get Model Y in the past. Nice comfy car, huge backseat and… a camera filming inside the car. Thanks no. Apparently for drowsiness detection, but I am not buying it. Time of flight camera staring at the driver’s face is kinda normal in car industry. Not a normal color camera filming everything and streaming somewhere like Tesla does.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by TylerE »

giantg2 wrote: post #50
jimlongton wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work in the industry. It's not a "vehicle" any more - it's a "platform" to "engage" with customers, i.e. sell your data and lock features behind ridiculous monthly fees. That is now the mantra of the automotive industry. It really kills any enthusiasm I have for new cars.

Wishing I still had my 89 Caprice with physical buttons and switches. Parts were insanely cheap too (except the transmission, which I part of why I got rid of it).

You wouldn’t be wishing that the first time you were in an accident.

Re: Tesla workers shared sensitive images recorded by customer cars

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Post by A4ET8a8uTh0 »

vidarh wrote: post #30
simion314 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There always will be such employees, probably most of them are never find out or not made public.

There will always be such employees, which is why actually privacy-minded companies strictly limits access to personal information, and carefully monitors the access of it.

It would be even better if that data was not collected to begin with. Alternatively, that this data would not leave the local hardware. But no.. everything has to be connected.
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