Website hosted on a 24 year old Linux server

Post by jcalvinowens » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 4:07 PM UTC

ElectricalUnion wrote: post #13

seba_dos1 wrote: post #10

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> Doing this in modern times would be so complicated. No, it wouldn't. All you need to store this kind of data is a simple file. Most people would probably use PHP for something like that due to its ubiquity, but it could even be a few lines of bash, or Python, or Go, or whatever...

> All you need to store this kind of data is a simple file. You mostly likely need a WAL Mode SQLite database. Most of the time, it's way simpler that handling state handling in concurrent situations yourself. (also, bindings are often available - if not outright bundled by default - under most common languages) The "easy" way is all fun and games until your file is accessed in a concurrent fashion, and then your opt…

Post by bombcar » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 4:09 PM UTC

Aachen wrote: post #30

ladberg wrote: post #28

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I think it's a reasonably good precaution to take with a 24 year old server. I'd imagine on hardware that old you could easily get DOSed by a single mean client (or a web scraper bot with bad behavior), so a ddos isn't even needed. Also this is available on Cloudflare's free plan so it's much safer to take the precaution in case you might need it down the line, rather than get taken down and have to fiddle with setti…

You can also kill my server with a single client. Nobody has for the ~15 years that I've hosted on old laptops now. I've run game servers, a wiki mirror, file upload sites, a Tor exit node, torrent seeding, recently a VM image for a malware analysis course, all sorts of random tools and scripts, you name it; various different audiences but most with some technical know-how, yet nobody has felt the need. People have m…

Post by LorenDB » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 4:11 PM UTC

johnbellone wrote: post #32

sillysaurusx wrote: post #5

I remember how magical and mysterious a view counter used to feel when I was a kid. How did the website know when someone visited it? Where was the count stored? And how on earth could a website update its own HTML to show the new count? Geocities days were magical. I wonder if kids today have similar thoughts about Twitter profiles and such. It’s probably much easier to pick up the knowledge — back then, it was balk…

I feel like you could do this without a database using the Linux kernel inotify API. Every time a file is accessed trigger an increment. It’s too beautiful of a day outside to try this right now but an interesting brain teaser!

Post by goodpoint » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 4:13 PM UTC

seba_dos1 wrote: post #3

Except it's not, not really - it's hosted by Cloudflare which even requires you to enable JavaScript to pass.

Post by henrydark » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 4:19 PM UTC

ElectricalUnion wrote: post #13

seba_dos1 wrote: post #10

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> Doing this in modern times would be so complicated. No, it wouldn't. All you need to store this kind of data is a simple file. Most people would probably use PHP for something like that due to its ubiquity, but it could even be a few lines of bash, or Python, or Go, or whatever...

> All you need to store this kind of data is a simple file. You mostly likely need a WAL Mode SQLite database. Most of the time, it's way simpler that handling state handling in concurrent situations yourself. (also, bindings are often available - if not outright bundled by default - under most common languages) The "easy" way is all fun and games until your file is accessed in a concurrent fashion, and then your opt…