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Re: Kubernetes is hard

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Post by deterministic »

988747 wrote: post #5
morelisp wrote: post #4

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> Suddenly your program that wasn’t checking for errors, breaks. The memory that you didn’t manage properly becomes now a problem. Yeah, nobody deployed anything and ran it for months, even years, before Kubernetes.

Yes, they did, but did it really take less effort than running it on Kubernetes?

Yep. Still doing it today. Very large scale Enterprise systems with complex multi-country/multi-organisational operational rules running 24/7. Millions of lines of code. No Kubernetes. No micro-services. No BS. It’s simple. It works. And it has worked for 30+ years.

Re: Kubernetes is hard

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Post by preseinger »

xyzzy_plugh wrote: post #140
preseinger wrote: post #120

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> Kubernetes is an ecosystem for managing software deployed on a fleet. There's value in that even if it's two or three hosts. there's value yes, but there's also cost, and that cost is huge > Kubernetes on a managed platform just happens to cover many pieces that you still need to solve otherwise i do not need to solve the vast majority of things that kubernetes solves certainly not in 2-3 node deployments, very lik…

It's not a huge cost. This is ludicrous. Sign up for a free account on GCP and walk through their getting started guide and you'll have stuff running in under an hour. > your "fine" rests on a base level of knowledge which is enormous, certainly incompatible with p99 of users I doubt it. I have far, far more experience running services on bare metal pizza boxes in 48U racks in PoPs all over the world, but that is a b…

how long it takes to deploy a trivial app is not representative of the costs required to responsibly maintain a non-trivial app in production

kubernetes is non-controversially more complex than running on bare metal

Re: Kubernetes is hard

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Post by maxthegeek1 »

The best reason to use k8s is to take advantage of the wide array of open source k8s resources, including helm charts, custom operators, articles and tutorials etc. It's become an open standard.

Like with many other technologies, k8s' advantage is its ecosystem.

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