In 2023 what is the advantage of mariaDB/mysql vs Postgres?
Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
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Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
#32In 2023 what is the advantage of mariaDB/mysql vs Postgres?
Whichever one you know is the one for you.
Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
#33This article twice makes accusations of "racism, sexism, and abuse" without backing it up with facts. Is there any more information about it in the public sphere? Or is it just: "These things are bad and MariaDB is bad, so we'll say they did these things".
It certainly seems like the company is going down the toilet, but I'd be dubious about the motivations of an anonymous rant on Medium about a publicly traded company.
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Genuinely curious how much you've donated towards MySQL and MariaDB if you feel so strongly about him not "selling out"..
My gut is telling me, much like everyone else who has similar distaste towards people being paid for their work, absolutely nothing.
Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
#35I wonder if some distro repos will stop installing mariadb instead of mysql whenever you try to install mysql. Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development. (MariaDB.org seems to be still active, but there is now much more uncertainty (imo) compared to the mysql project)
> Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development.
It never stopped, but it did seem to stagnate a fair bit for a while meaning that MariaDB trumped it on some features & fixes. For instance CTE support arrived in stable releases about a year earlier. That of course may not be the case any more.
Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
#36Bit of a nail in the coffin for me as of late.
* No async drivers.
* Total freezeup bug that only appears when MariaDB is under high load, since mid-2021 (10.6), not yet addressed.
* Postgres 15 outperforming MariaDB in both my own SELECT and INSERT benchmarks. Up to double performance for INSERT.
* Less and less compatibility with MySQL. Vitess dropping MariaDB.
* Postgres has a lighter setup, super fast compile in 2023. Standalone / portable Postgres is amazing: https://gist.github.com/gnat/cfe3754c3dc817c7fb8b2225ef4db62...
I do enjoy the MariaDB / MySQL tooling and syntax way more as a developer, and MaxScale etc. seems good, but there's only so much BS i'm willing to deal with when Postgres exists.
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Re: Mariadb.com is dead, long live MariaDB.org
#38I wonder if some distro repos will stop installing mariadb instead of mysql whenever you try to install mysql. Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development. (MariaDB.org seems to be still active, but there is now much more uncertainty (imo) compared to the mysql project)
> Always struck me as a weird thing to do since mysql never stopped development. It never stopped, but it did seem to stagnate a fair bit for a while meaning that MariaDB trumped it on some features & fixes. For instance CTE support arrived in stable releases about a year earlier. That of course may not be the case any more.
Oracle seems to do large feature drops every few years, while MariaDB has been shipping features incrementally every 6 months or so. The first couple of versions were the exception: they pulled an enormous amount of functionality from other forks, many of which have since been removed (things like the TokuDB storage engine). Left a bit of a sour taste in my mouth (how can you depend on a database that shoves 50 features in, and then removes 20 of them during the next few years).
We have low visibility into MySQL development process (is the bug tracker still closed? I am not sure), so when they shipped 8.0 in 2018 it was quite a surprise. They fixed a number of outstanding issues, including many extremely bad defaults (like using proper Unicode by default). Some things added in 8.0 (like atomic DDL) are still not available in MariaDB. Oracle being Oracle, there haven't been any major releases since.
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#39I guess i don't fully understand the distinction. So the company is going down, but the open source org is still alive. Did the company do most of the development? If they did was that development available to people using it 'for free'? Why was there a company in the first place, you'd think it would be hard to make money betting on a single open source database. My only interaction with MariaDB was picking it from…
Does the original creator have a third kid to name the next fork after?
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He sold to Sun Microsystems, not to Oracle.
Oracle then bought Sun.