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A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by mdrzn »

I really enjoy and appreciate the demo on the landing page.

My only problem with this as an alternative to Wordpress are the claim "Put your cursor anywhere and make changes" or "Your website will do exactly what you need it to do". I see that I can clearly change text anywhere, but how do I change the template or the layout? How do I add a three columns section?

Making changes in a visual editor like Elementor is extremely easy even for non-technical people, which is why it's so mainstream.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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mhd wrote: post #70

I'm currently looking for something even more limited and lightweight, where I, as a developer, can just deploy a static site regulary (e.g. built by hugo), but with a few small sections editable on the front page, like a vacation notice, job openings etc. Moving everything to a CMS or something like this, seems a lot of work. I'm looking at just using server-side includes for those sections, but haven't found a good…

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Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by _mql »

CharlesW wrote: post #43
_mql wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"CMS-free" as in "does not depend on additional software to manage content". Postgres and S3 through MinIO are my preferred choices, but you can change that to anything you'd like to use instead. Glad you like the in-place editing. I'm also for the first time happy with the experience. You can press CMD+E for editing and CMD+S saving, and there's no layout shift, so it's really convenient for quick edits. :)

> "CMS-free" as in "does not depend on additional software to manage content". Postgres and S3 through MinIO are my preferred choices, but you can change that to anything you'd like to use instead. Cool! Postgres and an S3-compatible object store area are both listed as requirements, so you may want to update that. So by "does not depend on additional software", does that means I can just use the filesystem?

You could just use the filesystem indeed.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by _mql »

nailer wrote: post #21

CMSs really are painful. I've spent more time making Ghost work on domain.com/blog (despite content marketing being one of the main reasons to drive people to your website, Ghost doesn't support this) than I have to write a CMS before. Looks like it uses Postgres: https://github.com/michael/editable-website

Yeah it's essentially bare-metal web development. Thanks to Svelte and ProseMirror, it's just much easier to enable functionality, which would otherwise only be possible through a CMS. It uses Postgres, but you could use any other database as well.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by _mql »

mdrzn wrote: post #71

I really enjoy and appreciate the demo on the landing page. My only problem with this as an alternative to Wordpress are the claim "Put your cursor anywhere and make changes" or "Your website will do exactly what you need it to do". I see that I can clearly change text anywhere, but how do I change the template or the layout? How do I add a three columns section? Making changes in a visual editor like Elementor is ex…

These two claims you mentioned are directed towards the end-user, need to make that more clear maybe. The template is aiming at frontend developers, who want to control the layout in code, but allow end-users to make content changes (without having to learn anything).

It's not a page builder for non-technical people. But as a developer or agency you can offer your clients, that you build a website for them, that they can then self-maintain without any friction.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by lucas_codes »

mhd wrote: post #70

I'm currently looking for something even more limited and lightweight, where I, as a developer, can just deploy a static site regulary (e.g. built by hugo), but with a few small sections editable on the front page, like a vacation notice, job openings etc. Moving everything to a CMS or something like this, seems a lot of work. I'm looking at just using server-side includes for those sections, but haven't found a good…

Sounds like you would like Netlify CMS.

You can set it up so it edits a few markdown files, and these files are used in your static build.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by malborodog »

_mql wrote: post #42
CharlesW wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Obviously they don’t want people editing their production website, but is it otherwise supposed to persist? The repo notes that persistence requires editors to in with the (shared?) admin user and password. Although the pitch is "CMS-free", this is a Postgres- and S3-backed content management system. The in-place editing is extremely cool.

"CMS-free" as in "does not depend on additional software to manage content". Postgres and S3 through MinIO are my preferred choices, but you can change that to anything you'd like to use instead. Glad you like the in-place editing. I'm also for the first time happy with the experience. You can press CMD+E for editing and CMD+S saving, and there's no layout shift, so it's really convenient for quick edits. :)

why not just have a tonne of html files on disk?? I'm confused at why this requires a sophisticated backend.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by mdrzn »

_mql wrote: post #75
mdrzn wrote: post #71

I really enjoy and appreciate the demo on the landing page. My only problem with this as an alternative to Wordpress are the claim "Put your cursor anywhere and make changes" or "Your website will do exactly what you need it to do". I see that I can clearly change text anywhere, but how do I change the template or the layout? How do I add a three columns section? Making changes in a visual editor like Elementor is ex…

These two claims you mentioned are directed towards the end-user, need to make that more clear maybe. The template is aiming at frontend developers, who want to control the layout in code, but allow end-users to make content changes (without having to learn anything). It's not a page builder for non-technical people. But as a developer or agency you can offer your clients, that you build a website for them, that they…

Ooooh now I get it, and it's extremely interesting as a solution. Thanks for explaining it to me.

I could build the basic layout, and let the customer fill it in and change it without a need for supervision.

Re: A SvelteKit template for building CMS-free editable websites

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Post by esafak »

_mql wrote: post #67
esafak wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you should emphasize that it is based on svelte. You can't fairly call CMS and No-Code solutions complicated when you expect users to know Svelte. That limits your audience to the kind of people (front-end developers) that aren't desperate for such tools. I am using Framer on a project and I'm pretty happy with it. If you want to go commercial, you could develop a platform for others to contribute building bl…

Exactly. This is for frontend developers, who want to control the layout in code, but allow end-users to make content changes (without destroying the layout :P). If you or your end-users prefer to also define layout and style in a visual interface, that's what CMS and No-Code tools are made for. As for earning money: I was thinking of creating specific templates (e.g. an editable artist portfolio website) and sell th…

You can always develop sites yourself, but tools are more profitable. "Framer/Webflow for front-end developers". Occupy the niche between framer/webflow and pure Svelte; make developers' work easier?
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