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Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if I am doing this at a cheap VPS provider? Can I just add two of their storage volumes and somehow combine them into 1 bigger volume?

That makes it worse; cheap VPS providers tend to have lots of abuse issues, so their IP blocks tend to have poor reputation.

But besides that I can mount multiple volumes and use LVM to make it look like one?

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Not addressing your question, but FWIW:

Mail is the one thing I eventually caved on and offload to Microsoft. It's an uphill battle keeping your mail out of Spam folders. You setup DKIM, SPF, etc. according to the latest spec, and at the end of the day, the MS and Google still drop your mail in spam. They simply don't care.

Second, the forces and money keeping MS above legally bound 99.9% uptime tower in comparison to any one person's own resources. Is your daily driver even operational 99% of the time you use it? We hackers can't help but to tinker, so I suppose not.

MS has teams of engineers paid specifically to keep the thing running and NOT tinker. At only ~$10 / month that's a no brainer.

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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post #12

Not addressing your question, but FWIW: Mail is the one thing I eventually caved on and offload to Microsoft. It's an uphill battle keeping your mail out of Spam folders. You setup DKIM, SPF, etc. according to the latest spec, and at the end of the day, the MS and Google still drop your mail in spam. They simply don't care. Second, the forces and money keeping MS above legally bound 99.9% uptime tower in comparison t…

They should pay their engineers to fix their MTA-STS validation. Haven't done so in ages. If you think you're not up to selfhosting (which in my experience is quite feasible and comfortable): please choose a provider that is not one of the surveillance capitalists. Recommendations are Migadu and mailbox.org

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Sadly self hosted e-mail is a 24/7 job where you will be fighting against big players for the luxury of sending e-mail from your own system. Despite the dozen or so different standards to attest you are a legitimate sender it has basically boiled down to a handful of big e-mail providers that trust each other and everyone else is eyed with utter suspicion and contempt - and it has nothing to do with the fact every member of the “in” crowd makes significant money selling access to their infrastructure - honest (sarcasm).

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Sadly self hosted e-mail is a 24/7 job where you will be fighting against big players for the luxury of sending e-mail from your own system. Despite the dozen or so different standards to attest you are a legitimate sender it has basically boiled down to a handful of big e-mail providers that trust each other and everyone else is eyed with utter suspicion and contempt - and it has nothing to do with the fact every me…

I self host my email spending a couple hours a month at most. But I have email related experience and if this is a new for you area you will need to learn it spending more time.

Risk of being blocked by big players (gmail/O365) is real but IMHO very low if you follow BCP. The main problem is that big companies make it very hard or impossible to contact them to resolve the issue.

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Your question doesn't directly indicate which problem you are trying to solve. It would be helpful if you would mention the hosting provider as their service offerings do differ.

If you are trying to solve storage reliability for single mail server then creating a file system level failover would be way to go as mentioned previously (LVM, soft RAID over multiple volumes, etc).

If you are trying to solve mail service reliability/failover then adding second mail server would be helpful. In that case you can use dsync (does master/master sync) to keep emails on both servers in sync.

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Sadly self hosted e-mail is a 24/7 job where you will be fighting against big players for the luxury of sending e-mail from your own system. Despite the dozen or so different standards to attest you are a legitimate sender it has basically boiled down to a handful of big e-mail providers that trust each other and everyone else is eyed with utter suspicion and contempt - and it has nothing to do with the fact every me…

I self host my email spending a couple hours a month at most. But I have email related experience and if this is a new for you area you will need to learn it spending more time. Risk of being blocked by big players (gmail/O365) is real but IMHO very low if you follow BCP. The main problem is that big companies make it very hard or impossible to contact them to resolve the issue.

> Risk of being blocked by big players (gmail/O365) is real but IMHO very low if you follow BCP

Can confirm, only issue I have is with outlook.com because their MTA-STS validator is… for lack of a better word: wrong.

I decided that replying to mails from outlook.com is not part of my mailserver's offerings and if it's required others channels have to be sought out. I'm not going to violate established standards just so Microsoft can do things their way.

Re: Ask HN: Self hosted email, Cloud storage and dovecot

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Sadly self hosted e-mail is a 24/7 job where you will be fighting against big players for the luxury of sending e-mail from your own system. Despite the dozen or so different standards to attest you are a legitimate sender it has basically boiled down to a handful of big e-mail providers that trust each other and everyone else is eyed with utter suspicion and contempt - and it has nothing to do with the fact every me…

I self host my email spending a couple hours a month at most. But I have email related experience and if this is a new for you area you will need to learn it spending more time. Risk of being blocked by big players (gmail/O365) is real but IMHO very low if you follow BCP. The main problem is that big companies make it very hard or impossible to contact them to resolve the issue.

Could you elaborate what BCP is? (I am not familiar with the term)
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