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Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

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Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

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this is absolutely terrible. this is a sure way for russia to create a modern version of the stolen generation [1] [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Generations

Sure is terrible, just weird that russians themselves just take it and don't stand up.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#153
post #77

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I really wish this got more attention (but I guess Russian citizens receive zero sympathy these days, their political position notwithstanding). Maybe then we would see less of this tiresome bullshit from keyboard warriors from around the globe who blame ordinary citizens for being unwilling to throw themselves unarmed against a neo-Stalinist dictatorship that the West has supported for more than two decades. The EU…

>In fact, Russia made record profits last year. There was a lag between the jumps in prices and the move towards other sources than Russia. Russia is going to have massive budget issues from this year onwards. Saying that Europe is still a massive buyer of Russia gas and oil is simply false.

Do you have a source? I found that after start of the war imports doubled from Russia for gas and news try to hide this elephant in the room. Same with swift, they said that Russia was disconnected but it was just a publicity stunt and I personally sent wire to Russia via swift in usd to test and it did work. Don’t know which sources to trust but seems like they all lie

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#154

Russians have never had any real individual rights. Throughout their history the common people have just been resources enslaved to brutal overlords. The Soviets were perhaps somewhat softer overlords on average, but the principle remains. The state will dispose of disobedient people the same way it would dispose of rotten potatoes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8ZqBLcIvw0

That's how majority of the world lives though.

Yeah, and I wouldn't want to live in the majority of the world. Judging by immigration patterns, most people who live in the majority of the world don't want to either. It's one reason Russia's having issues with the T-14 tank, not only are a lot of its parts imported from the West, but anyone in Russia smart enough to help build a tank has almost certainly left for the West where they can have a better standard of living.

Democracies have decisively defeated dictatorships and oligarchies at every turn for the last century, the fact that dictatorships remain as a lesser category of nation is proof only that human potential has yet to be fully realized.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#155
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish this got more attention (but I guess Russian citizens receive zero sympathy these days, their political position notwithstanding). Maybe then we would see less of this tiresome bullshit from keyboard warriors from around the globe who blame ordinary citizens for being unwilling to throw themselves unarmed against a neo-Stalinist dictatorship that the West has supported for more than two decades. The EU…

>In fact, Russia made record profits last year. There was a lag between the jumps in prices and the move towards other sources than Russia. Russia is going to have massive budget issues from this year onwards. Saying that Europe is still a massive buyer of Russia gas and oil is simply false.

If by "other sources" you mean Latvia, India, and the like, then sure. Maybe you would like to know who that oil and gas is really coming from (or maybe not if you want to sleep well at night — that what others have been doing).

I've read enough of this bullshit about Putin supposedly being out of rockets, Russian economy supposedly collapsing in a couple of weeks, etc, to not believe any word of it. And I really hoped it would happen quickly (dig into my comments if you don't believe me) because what he's been doing to Ukraine destroyed me emotionally — unlike most Westerners who didn't know what Ukraine was until very recently.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#156

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Major medical organizations, including the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry, the Endocrine Society, the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association, have published policy statements and guidelines on how to provide age-appropriate gender-affirming care.

All of those medical societies find such care to be evidence-based and medically necessary.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#157
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Any Russians on here to explain why dissenters wouldn’t work on leaving the country rather than token demonstrations like this?

Sure (I am Russian, emigrated in 2005, never been in Russia since 2014). Here are some of the actual reasons: 1) Immigration is hard. Particularly when you are not from a well-developed country with a powerful passport. You will live on a borrowed time, where the host country will invent reasons to deport you (to Russia, of course, where you most probably will be jailed in no time). I live in Switzerland for 18 years…

What happens if you marry a Swiss chick, will they give you citizenship or did they plug that hole as well?

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#158

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See that sounds reasonable as a general case. But it is a lot less reasonable on specific cases when you get into the details.

Like suicidal and/or deeply depressed kids who clearly have gender dysphoria.

There isn't a one size fits all solution for medical issues, and letting the government get involved with draconian measures that really only are being enforced because of bizarre partisan reasons meant to rile up a base is not good policy.

We all were perfectly fine watching Mrs. Doubtfire, but now because of weird political reasons that is somehow being labeled as pedophilia.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#159
post #117
post #96

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It seems that support for Ukraine is one aspect that crosses demographics here in the UK, Left and Right, Young and Old, Leave and Remain, all fully oppose Russia and broadly support the efforts the UK and the west in general have done. It seems to be that a significant number of people in America seem to support the Russian narrative.

That’s what their media is telling them.

The Guardian and the Sun don't tend to agree on very much but they both support the help the UK is giving to Ukraine.

Re: Russia is persecuting dissenters by taking away their children

#160
post #119

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The authoritarianism in Belarus is entirely domestic in origin and predates the modern Russian one.

That's true but it still is a Russian puppet state at present.

It's fluid. In the way late period fascist Italy could be called puppet state of Nazi Germany perhaps. But Belarusian dictator has his own distinct agenda and pursues it despite very limited choices which "puppet state" kinda glosses over.
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