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Can a once trendy tech company like Birds scooter (stock at 22 cents down -98%) really be considered to have the upper hand? I think if you're a FAANG employer that is considered "safe" definitely yes, but there's a pile of zombie companies that have been wrecked by end of ZIRP and have a hard time understanding how they retain or hire anyone.
ZIRP?
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> It originally meant people graduating college around 2000: This is not how generational cohorts work. AFAIK, what counts as a generation can refer to people born over from 10, and up to 33 year period depending on who you ask. "Millennial" is not precise term, it simply refers to people younger than Gen X and older than Gen Z.
Eh, I remember when this was coined, and it was specifically about people graduating college at the millennium. Granted, I thought then (and still think) this was a weird benchmark to use. But the whole thing is dumb.
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Which professions hire like this? I can’t think of any.
Pretty much none that I'm aware of. My brother is an actual engineer. They get hired on past relevant experience and simple interview. Of course he also needs the relevant credentials and professional membership so there is that... you can't keep those if you mess up and you won't get recommendations if you are an ahole. A lot of my friends are doctors. If you are qualified and want the position it's yours. Demand >…
Isn’t supply artificial constrained for doctors?
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Yes. Additionally I'm not moving across the country to live in a strange and expensive city to work on your CRUD app. There is no way back, even at 2X or 3x more.
The salary I get now (working remotely) allows me to work for 3 months and relax for 9, should I desire to do so. I guess if someone offered me 9X more for working in the office, I would agree - but I'd quit after 3 months to enjoy my freedom for the next 3 years. (Or, what is more probable, take a less paid but remote job as I enjoy doing what I do and want to stay competitive in the market.) Less than that - sorry,…
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It includes the Nov 1 post, you can see the data here: https://slight.run/apps/colman/job_seekers_vs_job_hiring_hac... (Vega reads 2022-11-01 into your local timezone, hence why you're possibly seeing 2022-10-31). They claim they update it daily ( https://console.cloud.google.com/marketplace/details/y-combi... ) but they only update it every few months it would appear. Of course you can manually get this data from th…
Ok so either way though, it's not really comparable to OP because it doesn't include 2023 data (i.e. all of the current recession).
If you just need the last few data points, of course you can either just look at OP's chart, or if you don't trust that data, then quickly get the data yourself. Again you can even create an account on slight.run and recreate the full graph if you prefer.
We are also not currently in a recession. If instead you're referring to market conditions that affected tech heavily, that was in place by Q3 2022 (e.g. https://techcrunch.com/2022/12/20/remembering-the-startups-w...), and this also lines up more closely with how the Fed has been raising rates (https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DFEDTARU).
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The salary I get now (working remotely) allows me to work for 3 months and relax for 9, should I desire to do so. I guess if someone offered me 9X more for working in the office, I would agree - but I'd quit after 3 months to enjoy my freedom for the next 3 years. (Or, what is more probable, take a less paid but remote job as I enjoy doing what I do and want to stay competitive in the market.) Less than that - sorry,…
Amazing. Are you in a low col area?
Until recently, the other major cost was the education of my kids, but fortunately that expense is now gone.
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Eh, I remember when this was coined, and it was specifically about people graduating college at the millennium. Granted, I thought then (and still think) this was a weird benchmark to use. But the whole thing is dumb.
You may be misremembering, or perhaps you meant graduating high school? People who graduated college in 2000 are not considered to be millennials as they were been born in 1978 or 1979.
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Don’t be afraid to apply for jobs that are (slightly) outside your experience range. Often, these posts are “pie in the sky” wants, not hard requirements.
Good to know! Now I just got to keep grinding to be competitive against more experienced devs applying for the same position. Seems like its gonna be really difficult when theres gonna be at least a few hundreds of them applying for the same position. Not sure what would motivate an employer to hire early career vs someone with 5 years of experience. Maybe paying new hires less than experienced ones?
Even in the more "chill" jobs you are expected to pass multiple rounds, be among the best among the candidates.
I just want to be average in the candidate standings, for an average dev job.
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seems like it wouldn't be too hard, just tedious, to compile all the data.
Fine, I'll start. These threads are easily found in Google. January 2020: 244 wants to be hired / 697 hiring = 35% February 2020: 227 / 677 = 34% March 2020: 349 / 776 = 45% April 2020: 521 / 601 = 87% May 2020: 329 / 686 = 48% June 2020: 305 / 659 = 46% July 2020: 280 / 680 = 41% August 2020: 410 / 828 = 50% September 2020: 346 / 698 = 50% October 2020: 295 / 810 = 36% November 2020: 259 / 807 = 32% December 2020: 2…