My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022) • Hacker News Board

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by mat_epice » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:14 AM UTC

lawgimenez wrote: post #10

thriftwy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have missed Windows ME between XP and 98, which was so awful people don't remember it anymore. For a revolutionary product, Windows 95 wasn't that bad.

There’s also Windows 2000, which I think was the worst of all.

Oh wow, I feel exactly the opposite.

Windows 2000 was no-nonsense, but all good stuff. The good bones that Windows XP got came straight from Win2k.

The only real problem it had was a narrower hardware compatibility profile, but it still wasn’t that bad.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by agent86 » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:14 AM UTC

lawgimenez wrote: post #10

thriftwy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have missed Windows ME between XP and 98, which was so awful people don't remember it anymore. For a revolutionary product, Windows 95 wasn't that bad.

There’s also Windows 2000, which I think was the worst of all.

I would personally argue that Windows 2000 wasn't bad, it was just painful in the beginning. It was the transition point from the 9x kernel/setup to the NT kernel/setup and some manufacturers navigated that change better than others in the beginning.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by brk » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:15 AM UTC

thriftwy wrote: post #2

None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP and at least one (8) was a complete disaster, the shock waves from that catastrophe still rumbling around. By failing to reproduce that success, Microsoft has ceded most of the moral market share to Apple. Though, as a Linux user, every time I see a Mac desktop I can't resist noticing how often would it lock up and display that rotating "busy" mouse cur…

I’ve been using MacOS as my daily desktop for over a decade, switching from Linux. Seeing the busy cursor is so rare I can’t recall the last time. And I have tons of things open all the time.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by evmar » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:16 AM UTC

nine_k wrote: post #17

jimbobimbo wrote: post #5

"My belief is that computer security is highly overrated. [...] This can actually be quantifiable. [...] In 2021 Project Zero registered 10 0-days that concerned Windows. [...] None affected Windows XP." Clever! Security by running an OS which none of the exploit authors are targeting anymore.

Are all the old vulnerabilities patched up adequately? Are all old expoloits defeated?

They are running a Chrome from 2016, so they are vulnerable to ~every exploit found in Chrome since then.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by zabzonk » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:16 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #16

ptero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the big change came with Windows 2000. It had user benefits from 9x in a stable package. That was the first version that I can play games on and also leave it running for months, just like a Linux box.

Curious if you'd ever used a version of Windows NT prior to 2000? Since 2000 was part of the NT line, it might not be a fair comparison.

i used several versions of nt prior to 2k - 2k was better than those in every respect.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by mulmen » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:16 AM UTC

jimbobimbo wrote: post #5

"My belief is that computer security is highly overrated. [...] This can actually be quantifiable. [...] In 2021 Project Zero registered 10 0-days that concerned Windows. [...] None affected Windows XP." Clever! Security by running an OS which none of the exploit authors are targeting anymore.

Google Project Zero is a list of known vulnerabilities. It is not a comprehensive list of all vulnerabilities.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by bombcar » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:16 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #16

ptero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the big change came with Windows 2000. It had user benefits from 9x in a stable package. That was the first version that I can play games on and also leave it running for months, just like a Linux box.

Curious if you'd ever used a version of Windows NT prior to 2000? Since 2000 was part of the NT line, it might not be a fair comparison.

Windows NT before 2000 had problems with games and such, 2000 worked well because most games were now working to target XP ( and 2k had better compatibility with 98 anyway).

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by zabzonk » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

lawgimenez wrote: post #10

thriftwy wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have missed Windows ME between XP and 98, which was so awful people don't remember it anymore. For a revolutionary product, Windows 95 wasn't that bad.

There’s also Windows 2000, which I think was the worst of all.

it was brilliant - fast and very stable.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by lmm » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:18 AM UTC

thriftwy wrote: post #2

None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP and at least one (8) was a complete disaster, the shock waves from that catastrophe still rumbling around. By failing to reproduce that success, Microsoft has ceded most of the moral market share to Apple. Though, as a Linux user, every time I see a Mac desktop I can't resist noticing how often would it lock up and display that rotating "busy" mouse cur…

> None of Microsoft's operating systems were as good as Windows XP

Huh? XP added nothing to 2000 except useless bling.

Re: My long goodbye to Windows XP (2022)

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Post by jackvalentine » Wed, Apr 05, 2023, 12:19 AM UTC

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #16

ptero wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the big change came with Windows 2000. It had user benefits from 9x in a stable package. That was the first version that I can play games on and also leave it running for months, just like a Linux box.

Curious if you'd ever used a version of Windows NT prior to 2000? Since 2000 was part of the NT line, it might not be a fair comparison.

Gaming on NT had a lot of compatibility issues and I don’t think MS ever released officially some of the Direct3D updates for NT.