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It doesn't matter what you accept of reject. The owners set the priorities not the workers or the general public.
The owners don’t operate in isolation, they live in society with other people.
So why are you not the one that has to adopt to society?
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Yes but that role you link to will open up a lot of doors, revolving doors as they say. Also does the UK have paid speaking engagements like the US does?
And that's a government role. I don't know what a US government head of security role pays, but I suppose it would not be on par with a FAANG role?
An "IT Specialist" at the US Treasury gets paid between $150-180k.
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It's completely irrelevant. And, yes, reducing you spending does lead to job losses.
I strongly disagree; my reduction in spending doesn't lead to job losses at any particular company. Perhaps if said company is providing such little service that many people choose to reduce their spending by all spending less on the same company, job losses would result. In this case we're talking about a lot of people at a pretty far remove from the employees being laid off. This is very different from what is happ…
Reduced spending on goods and services reduces revenues, which reduces profits and often leads to lay offs.
Sure your individual decision to cancel Disney+ doesnt mean someone gets fired.
But if you and 500,000 other subscribers cancel, people do get fired and you contributed to it.
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B/c the cold hard truth is that people would rather the 3-4x salaries. https://jobs.theguardian.com/job/8512191/head-of-cyber-secur... You have the head of cyber security making almost 1/2 as much as many CS grads right out of college. People can and will say they want more rights... but if that were _really_ true you would see tons of tech workers breaking down the door to get into Europe. As it stands, the complete…
Yes but that role you link to will open up a lot of doors, revolving doors as they say. Also does the UK have paid speaking engagements like the US does?
This could be said about any job
>Also does the UK have paid speaking engagements like the US does?
No idea
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How is that at all related? US paying more is not mutually exclusive to people in Europe to fight for better conditions/their rights? Do you consider this to cause US to pay less and in turn lost income? Sorry to break it to you, but it's already happening and not at all related to what happens in Europe, but to US's own incompetency on responsible economics.
>How is that at all related? It is all related. It is so much harder to do business in Europe than in the US, especially in tech. Almost exclusively due to regulation.
Here Google is a behemoth having thousands of employees and most probably unlimited cash flow all across the world and you are suggesting a few hundred UK workers should be more concerned about this behemoth's responsibilities than their own benefits?
An effective strategy to avoid layoffs at European offices is to cause just enough friction to get HR to give up and divert the firing to lower-rights countries (i.e. USA).
1. An executive’s or senior director’s résumé fodder
2. GDPR compliance
Innovation is attracted to free and efficient markets.
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And that's a government role. I don't know what a US government head of security role pays, but I suppose it would not be on par with a FAANG role?
No, it wouldn't be on par with FAANG but it would still be 3-4x higher. An "IT Specialist" at the US Treasury gets paid between $150-180k. https://www.usajobs.gov/job/716266700
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B/c the cold hard truth is that people would rather the 3-4x salaries. https://jobs.theguardian.com/job/8512191/head-of-cyber-secur... You have the head of cyber security making almost 1/2 as much as many CS grads right out of college. People can and will say they want more rights... but if that were _really_ true you would see tons of tech workers breaking down the door to get into Europe. As it stands, the complete…
> The cold hard truth is that people would rather the 3-4x salaries. This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed: > 25 days annual leave (rising to 30 after 5 years), plus 8 public holidays and the King’s birthday Anyway comparing a government job to big tech isn't fair. It is big tech salaries that are unusual, not the other way around.
A similar role in the US would still pay 3-4x that.
>This sounds like an assumption based firmly in the American value system. This part is often missed
This is based on people "voting with their talent" and showing that they will put up with _a lot_ in exchange for $150k+ salaries.
An effective strategy to avoid layoffs at European offices is to cause just enough friction to get HR to give up and divert the firing to lower-rights countries (i.e. USA).
Each country is it’s own free standing company with it’s own P&L. And combined profit is what rolls up into annual reports.
I highly doubt a company like Google would let a country ride with poor profit dragging down earnings per share.
And on top, they arent going to risk US revenue (likely several multiples of most countries in Europe) by firing people they actually need just to avoid laying people off in another country.
It’s cheaper to just do the bare minimum of whatever the country requires for lay offs and be more careful hiring next time to avoid layoffs in the future.
That is their right, of course. Could this be a sign that it is tough in the SWE job market at the moment?! Usually moving on from Google would have been a non-issue to find a new job.