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Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits

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pseudoephedrine is amazing, I just recently found it and unlike every other cold medicine I've ever tried it actually works and clears my nose.

It is, but it's also one of those drugs cardiologists refuse to take themselves

Why?

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post #177

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Have you suffered excruciating pain for multiple days in a row? Non stop? Like so bad that your muscles recoil in horror that then causes even more pain in a recursive loop of horror?

Actually yes, in Germany if you break your bones you get ibuprofen, if you get your wisdom teeth pulled, you get ibuprofen. We don't have an opioid crisis anymore. Pain is a fact of life. The problem in the US is that there's the expectation to work the next day. It's ok to be in pain, it's also ok to miss out on work. If you accept these two basic facts you don't have an opioid crisis anymore.

Actually in the US you also get ibuprofen. I had very invasive jaw surgery and sinus repair. It hurt. I got 600mg ibuprofen and 600mg acetaminophen for the pain every 4-6 hours. It definitively took pain down to tolerable levels.

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post #184
post #177

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Actually yes, in Germany if you break your bones you get ibuprofen, if you get your wisdom teeth pulled, you get ibuprofen. We don't have an opioid crisis anymore. Pain is a fact of life. The problem in the US is that there's the expectation to work the next day. It's ok to be in pain, it's also ok to miss out on work. If you accept these two basic facts you don't have an opioid crisis anymore.

> Pain is a fact of life I see you have never been in any real pain, ever. What do you get for cancer in Germany? Still ibuprofen? There's a reason opioids exist and were such a revolution in medicine. They really work. Ibuprofen et al are fine for what they are, but anti-inflammatories can only do so much. We should be able to solve the over-prescribing and addiction issues as a society without throwing the baby out…

Who is suggesting ibuprofen for cancer? Come on now. There is absolutely time and place for narcotic pain killers. But there are a lot of doctors prescribing them for really minor things. Few years ago I got vicodin after a root canal. It was baffling

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I find it fascinating how so many HN users ardently defend broad access to Adderall (which has tons of possible downsides, but also tons of positive use cases), but then claim that any and all uses of any and all opiates will lead to a deadly, incurable addiction, even though opiates also have tons of positive use cases too.

They don't. You can find many of the same feedback in this thread, and lots of people are defending the dangerous under prescription of Adderall, which I consider a civil rights violation.

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post #187

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>I see you have never been in any real pain, ever. What do you get for cancer in Germany? Still ibuprofen? I guess not. My point still stands though. Americans in Germany whine all the time about not getting "proper" pain medication. It's an attitude problem. I have been in pain multiple times, mostly broken bones, wisdom teeth, tendons and the like, and in the moment it doesn't feel good to only get ibuprofen. But m…

I would much prefer to be given more than ibuprofen for surgery, thanks. Have you have had tumor removed from your body? That would hurt like the dickens with just some tylenol and no real pain meds or anesthesia. > If you accept these two basic facts you don't have an opioid crisis anymore. This is an incredibly simplistic view of a very complex issue.

Why is it so hard to understand? I don’t think anyone here is saying there is no legitimate use for narcotic pain killers. If anyone is in huge amount of pain, by all means, take what you need. However it should almost never be default first line pain management outside of the hospital.

People don’t give ibuprofen enough credit.

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post #182

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I’m not trying to say that narcotic painkillers are ineffective or necessarily dangerous. I am saying that many kinds of pain can be managed with OTC medication. There aren’t necessarily two schools of thought. It’s more that if let’s say ibuprofen isn’t helping the pain, it may just be that you aren’t taking enough of it. It is a very effective pain medicine.

What a shitty take. There’s only so much ibuprofen you can take before the risks start outweighing the benefits, and there’s plenty of pain that is much stronger than that.

Actually you can take quite a bit of ibuprofen for a short period of time with no long term problems. You can also take ibuprofen and acetaminophen. It is quite the hot take that narcotic pain meds are safer.

I’m not at all suggesting ibuprofen for pain management of cancer patients or people immediately after major surgery.

But for a big chunk of outpatient procedures enough OTC pain meds will actually work just fine.

I’m not some granola advocate here. Nor am I trying to say that everyone should just tough it out. But you can’t seriously say that 800mg ibuprofen is more dangerous or less effective than opioids for wisdom teeth removal

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post #52

I need adderall to function but on my last refill the pharmacy was out and when I asked when they’ll get more the tech said “maybe next year?”. I got my doc to switch me to vyvanse which is 3x the price even with good insurance since it’s still brand only. I don’t like vyvanse compared to plain generic adderall but I’ll take what I can get. Seems like they’d make dispensing it harder rather than just cut off the supp…

Not medical advice but IIRC, Vyvanse is essentially the name-brand product with an extra methyl group stuck on. Your pancreas produces an enzyme called Trypsin that breaks off that methyl group, and turns it into the active ingredient. It's considered an extended release because the enzyme's availability is limited in your body. Trypsin is not exactly a common supplement, but you might consider looking into which kin…

Lisdexamfetamine is the right-handed dextroamphetamine with an L-Lysine amino acid attached to the nitrogen atom. Regular adderall is a mix of the left and right handed enantiomers of amphetamine.

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It’s nice to see some reporting on the potential causes of the issues folks are facing with filling Adderall prescriptions. I’ll provide an anecdotal observation… My SO has narcolepsy and uses Adderall to, quite literally, function. It’s unfortunate that this malady wasn’t referenced in the article but considering it affects (and I’m guessing here) less than 5% of the population, it makes sense. However (and I can ap…

If you ever have trouble accessing adderall, be sure to know that modafinil specifically treats narcolepsy and is easier to get both with and without a prescription.

I have idiopathic hypersomnia and Modafinil/Nuvigil worked great for a while, but then it very much didn’t agree with me in ways that are hard to express. I’ve seen others with the same issue online.

They annoying part is I’d love to have a prescription again to see if it works well for me again, or to take breaks from my stimulants - but my doctor says it’ll trigger an audit as I have both Vyvanse and Adderall prescriptions. What exactly that means I don’t know but he doesn’t seem keen.

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#210
post #78

Articles like this and reading about the FDA forcing drug manufacturers to replace pseudoephedrine (effective cold medicine) with phenylephrine (basically a placebo) really make me wonder about the intelligence level of the federal agencies. https://pharmacy.ufl.edu/2015/10/14/uf-researchers-ask-fda-t...

Why would that make you wonder about their intelligence? FDA having different priorities than you is not the same as them being stupid.

Correct. It's sometimes referred to as "mission blindness": when a bureaucracy (or part of a bureaucracy) is so focused on short-term mission goals to the detriment of everything else. The people taking these actions will continue this path unless the told otherwise.
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