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Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
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Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#192Earlier quoted context omitted.
You can grab a weapon and go to help Ukranians right now, instead of complaining on internet. Will you do it?
I is one thing to say our military should be involved it is another for a privet person to do so. If i alone as a private citizen go over there I I would have no logistical support to supply me with weapons, ammunition, food, equipment, medicen or direction. Hell I dont speak or read the local language, as a privet citizen going over there I would be a hindrance rather than a aid. if drafted and sent as part of a org…
Great, now you know why we have politics, diplomacy, army, etc. and why not all of them are cowards as media try to represent to you.
Remember that frightened citizen is easily manipulated citizen, open for new orders in name of safety.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
I life in a european country, and to be honest, im shocked how many of the "old guard" politicians and diplomats consider the whole crisis just a temporary upheaval in the russia relations, that can be waited out before everything is normal again. Waiting to resume the careers as if nothing happened. A quarter million people dead, because these corrupt non-show of a generation failed to act decisevly, hypnotized itse…
What would you have them do? March tens of thousands of young Europeans into the trenches?
No, thats what there politics so far have accomplished. And the first step to improvement would be to admit to that. The magic sentence : "I screwed up. Here is what lead to that, and here is were my thinking was flawed. Here is what i will do better from now on to avoid the flaws i obviously have.."
Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#194Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aggressive war is inexcusable and I condemn all nations that engage in it including Russia and the United States. Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty just as all other nations do, but what you posted is shallow thinking. Look at a map of Europe, put yourself in the mind of a highly suspicious and pessimistic person and ask yourself "how would I invade Russia?" "how do I get an SRBM or MRBM within striking range of…
> If peace was the goal then both sides need to agree to an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of both military and political forces. A new agreement needs to be reached that places Ukraine as a neutral, sovereign country and both sides should pay for reconstruction efforts and restitution to survivors. This is clear Russian propaganda. You "seem to forget" that Russia attacked Ukraine, committed several war crimes..…
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Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aggressive war is inexcusable and I condemn all nations that engage in it including Russia and the United States. Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty just as all other nations do, but what you posted is shallow thinking. Look at a map of Europe, put yourself in the mind of a highly suspicious and pessimistic person and ask yourself "how would I invade Russia?" "how do I get an SRBM or MRBM within striking range of…
> Both parties are No, not both sides. Ukraine was perfectly to stay home and take care of their own citizens. There's only one country that invaded the other and started stealing their kids and bomb their population. Russia can leave anytime, peace will be immediate.
Sorry, I realize English may not be your first language. When I say both sides I mean the United States and Russia. Ukraine is just stuck in the middle getting f'ed from both ends.
Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aggressive war is inexcusable and I condemn all nations that engage in it including Russia and the United States. Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty just as all other nations do, but what you posted is shallow thinking. Look at a map of Europe, put yourself in the mind of a highly suspicious and pessimistic person and ask yourself "how would I invade Russia?" "how do I get an SRBM or MRBM within striking range of…
Just to be clear: Russia invaded Ukraine. I’m not sure why you are both-sidesing this. Also, who are you talking about when you say "both sides"?Are you talking about Ukraine and Russia? Withdraw to where? Agreement with whom? Please be specific.
Sorry, I thought it was clear that I meant US and Russia. That is the overarching narrative here.
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
Aggressive war is inexcusable and I condemn all nations that engage in it including Russia and the United States. Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty just as all other nations do, but what you posted is shallow thinking. Look at a map of Europe, put yourself in the mind of a highly suspicious and pessimistic person and ask yourself "how would I invade Russia?" "how do I get an SRBM or MRBM within striking range of…
> If peace was the goal then both sides need to agree to an immediate ceasefire and withdrawal of both military and political forces. A new agreement needs to be reached that places Ukraine as a neutral, sovereign country and both sides should pay for reconstruction efforts and restitution to survivors. This is clear Russian propaganda. You "seem to forget" that Russia attacked Ukraine, committed several war crimes..…
As I've replied to others, "both sides" here means US and Russia. Both are culpable in this war and it is Ukraine that has to suffer the consequences.
Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#198Earlier quoted context omitted.
Russia is 28 times larger than Ukraine. They certainly want to benefit from the resources in Ukraine that they're trying to annex (although I'll admit it certainly doesn't look like they are ever going to achieve their goals and benefit from actually conquering the country as they planned, if that's what you meant.)
The only resource that Russia is running out of is people.
Russia lost something like 27 million dead in WWII. The most recent figure I can find for this war (from November) is 100,000 dead. Russia has plenty of people remaining they can throw into the meat grinder.
Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
#199"I must invade a neighboring country to prevent having NATO on my doorstep" - Vladimir Vladimirovich, master strategist "Whoa, if countries are annexed willy nilly then we better join NATO before it happens to us" - Every single one of those doorsteps
Aggressive war is inexcusable and I condemn all nations that engage in it including Russia and the United States. Ukraine has a right to its sovereignty just as all other nations do, but what you posted is shallow thinking. Look at a map of Europe, put yourself in the mind of a highly suspicious and pessimistic person and ask yourself "how would I invade Russia?" "how do I get an SRBM or MRBM within striking range of…
"Ukraine as a neutral, sovereign country"
Based on what Ukraine at least appears to want, especially now, if it is sovereign it won't be neutral, and if forced to be neutral it isn't really sovereign.
Re: Finland Becomes a Member of NATO on Tuesday 4 April
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That's the wrong question to ask. From an amoral game theory perspective, the real question is: how can we bleed Russia to death? The ideal outcome would be to trigger multiple civil wars in Russia where various provinces break away from Moscow, leaving the rump successor state no more of a threat than North Korea. In that scenario, Russia would still have to be taken seriously as a nuclear threat but would no longer…
thats not ideal either a bunch of breakaway states would be eaten by china which is not something NATO wants either. from the wets prospective a quick internal cue falloewed by regim change to a more western friendly pro democracy leader that ideally is afraid of china would be the best outcome.
The best outcome, temporarily. It's not a stable situation. What happens next? Russia will get eaten by China anyways, the question now is, will it be piecemeal or in one big chunk.