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UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by gumby »

dtech wrote: post #16
locallost wrote: post #12

I flew yesterday and in the plane realized I had some water from my daughter in the backpack. It was scanned and missed of course. And why wouldn't they miss it, it's a waste of time anyway. But at least they harassed a 3-year old to stand in a certain way to get scanned and fail at it. Unrelated, but I've come to believe it's a form of social welfare. So much policing for nothing, not just airports, wars on drugs et…

The term you're looking for is security theatre

And they claim republicans don’t believe government should support the arts!

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by vkou »

meghan_rain wrote: post #20
dtech wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The term you're looking for is security theatre

Right, but to their defense, there have not been 9/11 attacks or anything remotely similar since 9/11... so either it was all fake anyways or the security theater also deters potential low IQ attackers?

The biggest thing that stopped 9/11 attacks since 9/11 was locks on cockpit doors.

The second biggest thing that stopped them since 9/11 is passenger awareness that they could just... Not let a few assholes with boxcutters fly a plane into a building.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by andreiii »

seszett wrote: post #17
danielbln wrote: post #11

One of the few great benefits of going through Ben Gurion Airport in TelAviv is that due to their alternative approach to security (and profiling) noone gives a damn about your liquids. Want to go through the scanner holding a super gulp with a bag full of liquids? Go right ahead.

First rule at Ben Gurion is "don't be Arab" though. So maybe their "alternative approach" works for you, but it does have some downsides.

Most Arab Israelis get a 2/6 on security profiling... meaning they pass through w/o even extensive bag check. Same as people with family in Israel.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by joncrocks »

Arch-TK wrote: post #47

Recently at Stansted I had an encounter with a security staff member who was of the opinion that both clotted cream and butter were liquids. (Note, I wasn't the one trying to get either of these onto the plane.) Her entire argument seemed to rest on the case that they were spreadable. I don't think she did well in GCSE physics.

https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions - Note that it's not just strictly liquids, there's some nuance to it. Where a gel/cream becomes a solid is undefined. Annoyingly.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by andreiii »

zidad wrote: post #39
seszett wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First rule at Ben Gurion is "don't be Arab" though. So maybe their "alternative approach" works for you, but it does have some downsides.

Or even don't be associated with. As someone who used to visit the west bank for work I've spent many hours in intimidating interrogation, appropriated laptops, missed flights and most recently 3 days in a horrible prison without access to a shower or fresh clothing, after being denied access to the country for completely nonsense reasons. And the security argument is complete BS most of the time, NGO employees get t…

Ethnicity is irrelevant actually. Don't be associated with trouble makers.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by jonathantf2 »

locallost wrote: post #12

I flew yesterday and in the plane realized I had some water from my daughter in the backpack. It was scanned and missed of course. And why wouldn't they miss it, it's a waste of time anyway. But at least they harassed a 3-year old to stand in a certain way to get scanned and fail at it. Unrelated, but I've come to believe it's a form of social welfare. So much policing for nothing, not just airports, wars on drugs et…

I was very tired and left large bottle of water, some toiletries over 100ml, my laptop and Nintendo Switch inside my bag and it went through the X-ray scanner at SFO just fine, never once got looked at.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by ornornor »

Arch-TK wrote: post #47

Recently at Stansted I had an encounter with a security staff member who was of the opinion that both clotted cream and butter were liquids. (Note, I wasn't the one trying to get either of these onto the plane.) Her entire argument seemed to rest on the case that they were spreadable. I don't think she did well in GCSE physics.

I had cheese confiscated in Brussels “because we can’t tell the difference with C4 on the machine”

I suspect they just fancied a nice lunch.

Meanwhile I’ve flown a few times with a forgotten pocket knife in my carry on and more than 100mL of water. Nobody died and the plane landed safely at destination.

Re: UK airport scraps 100ml liquid rule with new scanners

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Post by phantomathkg »

elthran wrote: post #49
yardstick wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s common for airports to allow liquids for babies/toddlers. Just take them out of the bag and put them in a padded box normally. No 100ml limit either- have taken regular water bottles through too (for milk formula). Various airports have different rules. Dubai was quite lax, you don’t have to take anything out of bags. Maybe they have the new scanners already. Singapore was more strict, and they do the security c…

Ugh, don't remind me of Singapore. Transferring after a flight from London, I see a water bottle refill fountain, which I use. We're running late, so I head straight to the gate...and then have to immediately dispose of my newly filled 2L water bottle. I've never known another airport to have this security setup, and as a massive transit hub, I really can't make sense of why they chose to put it at that point - but t…

I think the reason is, like you said, it is a transit hub.

So passenger flying out of Singapore can mix with people in transit. Therefore, putting the scanner before boarding prevent a possible terrorist attack when someone smuggle in explosive or what not from Singapore or from transit flight.

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