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Re: Rational Dress Society

#21
It's kind of scary that this looks so quaint and antiquated but we still live in a time when the dress of women is limited both legally and socially, with restrictions on everything from where they can breastfeed to the number of pockets they can get.

The older I get the more egrarious it all feels. It also seems more normalised for younger men to hold explicitly misogynistic viewpoints about these issues.

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#22

My wife (and most other modern women too probably) would add “pockets on everything” and “more than a single dimension on pant sizes”.

Pockets at all, pockets that aren't fake stitching meant to give the illusion of a pocket, pockets that can actually fit anything in them, no fake zipper flaps, right-handed zippers and buttons... Sorry, I used to work at a dry cleaner.

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#23

It's kind of scary that this looks so quaint and antiquated but we still live in a time when the dress of women is limited both legally and socially, with restrictions on everything from where they can breastfeed to the number of pockets they can get. The older I get the more egrarious it all feels. It also seems more normalised for younger men to hold explicitly misogynistic viewpoints about these issues.

> number of pockets they can get

Does this come under the "legally" or "socially"?

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#24

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channar_revolt In Kerala, Southern India, which had the wierdest system of caste and associated rules of segregation, women had start with the struggle to clothe their upper body.

The opposite of "free the nipple"!

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#25

It's kind of scary that this looks so quaint and antiquated but we still live in a time when the dress of women is limited both legally and socially, with restrictions on everything from where they can breastfeed to the number of pockets they can get. The older I get the more egrarious it all feels. It also seems more normalised for younger men to hold explicitly misogynistic viewpoints about these issues.

> number of pockets they can get Does this come under the "legally" or "socially"?

That's a social issue.

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#27

It's kind of scary that this looks so quaint and antiquated but we still live in a time when the dress of women is limited both legally and socially, with restrictions on everything from where they can breastfeed to the number of pockets they can get. The older I get the more egrarious it all feels. It also seems more normalised for younger men to hold explicitly misogynistic viewpoints about these issues.

> number of pockets they can get Does this come under the "legally" or "socially"?

In weird ways, it can be in the "legally" camp...

There will be offices where the uniform or dress code is mandated by law, and the number of pockets will be whatever the uniform designer decided it would be. It's not specific to women per se, but there will probably be some differences in the design of both uniforms.

Basically that would be the social norms getting burned into legal requirements, until the uniforms are redone.

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#28
post #13

A well-made corset is a snug, comfortable, supportive garment that doesn't impede movement.

"well-made" doesn't feel like the correct description TBH.

Corsets can be made comfortable and unrestricting, but that was not the primary goal, nor the common use case. And yes, some corsets were made specially for sporty activities for instance.

I feel this reaction around corset kinda mimic the "suits can be made as comfortable as pajamas" rethoric. Sure they can, but the primary reason this has to be stated is because that requires tremendous and specialized effort that goes against the primary goal of the garment.

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#29
post #13

A well-made corset is a snug, comfortable, supportive garment that doesn't impede movement.

Right, Bernadette Banner's video discussing this, explaining why "corset = restrictive" is a myth, is interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rExJskBZcW0

The core of her argument is about actual fainting, permanent organ damage and rib deformation (which are probably myths, I am totally with her). It's a different question from "is it restrictive" though.

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post #13

A well-made corset is a snug, comfortable, supportive garment that doesn't impede movement.

Right, Bernadette Banner's video discussing this, explaining why "corset = restrictive" is a myth, is interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rExJskBZcW0

Thanks for linking this channel. Her costumery is so interesting and elegant.
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