If you have trouble getting Xanax or Adderall through legal means, do not resort to buying them illegally from a dealer. These pills are often counterfeit and laced with fentanyl, or its analogues, with the intention of converting more people to opioids.
Xanax and Adderall Access Is Being Blocked by Secret Drug Limits
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#42After the pharmacies got sued for filling opiate prescriptions (which were written by abusive doctors, but the pharmacies are the ones who got sued)[1], is it any surprise that Xanax and Adderall are being limited? If pharmacies are at risk for filling prescriptions that are more complex than antibiotics, the end result is that they make it harder to fill them. [1] https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/finance/federal-jur…
> is it any surprise that Xanax and Adderall are being limited? That depends on who is doing the limiting — if the pharmacy corporations are self-limiting then I would understand they are limiting their potential exposure/liability to whatever risk level they are comfortable with. I’ll still be able to find my necessary drugs at another chain which doesn’t limit. If the government is doing the limiting, then yes, tha…
The article goes to lengths to describe how the government, specifically the DEA are limiting supply by issuing edicts to pharmaceutical companies. Corporations don't generally defy government edicts, especially ones that lead to raids and jail time, so we really can say it's the government's doing here, rather than particularly self-limiting behavior on the part of the pharmaceutical companies.
That the government is threatening defiance of edicts with fines and jail time and not using direct means to stop additional production is not a distinction worth making - the government is limiting the supply of these medications.
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#43I've wondered if Adderall could be popular in part because it can lead to weight loss. This wouldn't be why people would go on the medication, but why they would hesitate going off it. I know some people continued smoking after they wanted to stop because they feared gaining weight when they did.
I’ve struggled with weight and ADHD.
Adderall is an appetite suppressant, but that doesn’t always translate to weight loss.
I’ve forgotten to eat for an entire day, but made up for it (and then some) the next.
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#44After the pharmacies got sued for filling opiate prescriptions (which were written by abusive doctors, but the pharmacies are the ones who got sued)[1], is it any surprise that Xanax and Adderall are being limited? If pharmacies are at risk for filling prescriptions that are more complex than antibiotics, the end result is that they make it harder to fill them. [1] https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/finance/federal-jur…
My understanding is that pharmacists are highly trained care providers. They aren’t simply some retailer who fills a doctors order.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
ADHD is an ADA-recognized disability. I doubt you’d support secret limits on mobility scooter orders because college kids sometimes steal golf carts. Why is this different?
Because Adderall is 100% pure speed. A handful of Adderalls is more fun than a bag of cocaine (which is going to be more like 5% purity and adulterated with god knows what).
Don't talk out of your ass. Cocaine comes with a much, much bigger euphoric rush than even methamphetamine, which has a much bigger rush than amphetamine. If your coke is less fun than some focus enhancement, it's because somebody sold you a gram of baking powder.
Basically all stimulants can be categorized by a level of euphoric rush, and a level of focus they provide. Caffeine sucks at both, methamphetamine rocks at both, cocaine's good for a body rush but isn't very good for focus, and amphetamine comes with relatively little euphoria for a methamphetamine-comparable level of focus.
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#46This seems just a little bit of a conspiracy theory but, giving it credence I would say that it might be because the drugs are ridiculously overprescribed. Particularly for those who just don't need it. In the case of ADD, once there was a medication for it the diagnosis took off like a rocket. Sort of like oxycodone..
I second this feeling, it seems like not only they are overprescribed but it's done at very young ages. Doctors just throw ADHD at signs of hyperactivity.
The idea of creating generations after generations unable to function without drugs seems a social disaster.
It's so odd, and also very specific to US.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Methamphetamine is a schedule 2 drug and prescribed in the US, though significantly more rarely than amphetamine. Is there a difference between oral consumption of amphetamine and methamphetamine dosed out in correct proportion to the salts in question? Maybe, but certainly not that "big" of a difference.
It's actually a big difference. One feels downright euphoric, according to Desoxyn users. The other is a boring study drug. https://slatestarcodex.com/2017/12/28/adderall-risks-much-mo...
>The other is a boring study drug
That's quite the mischaracterization. Stimulants even at low doses increase the dopamine in the brain and lead to a mild high. I don't think I've ever heard anyone ever call Adderall "boring" before either. That's like calling alcohol boring, maybe someone may not like the experience, but they both have immediate and noticeable effects and it's not just "I love studying" either.
Even Scott's article has examples of this, here's a story of a little girl becoming very high from a prescription stimulant:
"A spontaneous report from the manufacturer of Strattera (atomoxetine) described a 7-year-old girl who received 18 mg daily of atomoxetine for the treatment of ADHD. Within hours of taking the first dose, the patient started talking nonstop and stated that she was happy. The next morning the child was still elated."
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#49I've wondered if Adderall could be popular in part because it can lead to weight loss. This wouldn't be why people would go on the medication, but why they would hesitate going off it. I know some people continued smoking after they wanted to stop because they feared gaining weight when they did.
Adderall is not (usually) prescribed for weight loss, it would be an off-label use as well. There are stimulant medications like adderall that are prescribed and work much better at appetite reduction than Adderall.
Adderall is prescribed for weight loss, according my my psychiatrist, but it’s not approved to treat weight loss. Although similar drugs like vyvanse are approved for binge eating disorder. I think adderall is prescribed when patients can’t afford vyvanse. Although vyvanse is going generic this year.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Good comment, but Adderall is Amphetamine, not Methamphetamine. Big difference.
Methamphetamine is a schedule 2 drug and prescribed in the US, though significantly more rarely than amphetamine. Is there a difference between oral consumption of amphetamine and methamphetamine dosed out in correct proportion to the salts in question? Maybe, but certainly not that "big" of a difference.
The difference is one of chemistry, not law. A helpful analogy is to find another pair of drugs that people are more familiar with where the difference is a single methyl group: caffeine and theobromine (the stimulant in chocolate).
Saying that appropriately dosed amphetamine and methamphetamine don't have a "big" difference is like saying appropriately dosed chocolate and coffee don't have a "big" difference. The difference is clearly massive.