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WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by thebigjewbowski »

flangola7 wrote: post #63
osclarto wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you have no idea what you're talking about and your comment is just patronising. MMA is a highly technical sport that demands elite levels of athleticism and sporting intelligence. fight fans are also already a highly diverse group from all around the world and that group is continually growing in size and diversity

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Mark Zuckerberg practices Jiu Jitsu.

Anthony Bourdain practiced Jiu Jutsu.

Lots of actors and comedians have started practicing Jiu Jitsu.

I’m a CTO and I’ve practiced jiu jitsu and Muay Thai. I lift weights regularly too :O

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by giraffe_lady »

flangola7 wrote: post #63
osclarto wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you have no idea what you're talking about and your comment is just patronising. MMA is a highly technical sport that demands elite levels of athleticism and sporting intelligence. fight fans are also already a highly diverse group from all around the world and that group is continually growing in size and diversity

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This is incredibly revealing in a way I don't think you intend or are maybe even aware of.

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by mrguyorama »

chaorace wrote: post #27
Quarrelsome wrote: post #8

If I were a UFC fan then I would be concerned about the integrity of UFC, given the pure entertainment and narrative focus that an organisation like WWE has. There will be moments where WWE execs or simply WWE practices and processes will realise that a certain UFC outcome will be much better entertainment. The question is whether or not everyone will forever have the integrity to ignore that as an option and if the…

> Could it maybe work the other way, start to make the WWE more real? That would be a tragic mistake for everyone involved. People like being in on the joke when John Cena, a grown man costumed in neon green, runs around the square stage whilst pretending to be invisible. It would ruin the fun if his opponent unceremoniously dropkicked him in the solar plexus.

Professional wrestling makes way more sense when you realize it's not sport, it's modern day Shakespeare: Plays for the layperson, with plenty of dirty humor and crassness.

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by rs999gti »

Kranar wrote: post #62
mistrial9 wrote: post #38

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> wants to sell drama, not sports poor people around the world have little fight clubs all the time, and the result is "knuckle heads" with broken teeth and unable to work. This show business has big production value, good lighting with excellent cameras, and yes, stories that people can latch on to.. hint- fight fans are often not very smart.

I was curious so I did some Googling just to get a sense if what you're claiming is true and it turns out you very likely wrong on this matter. According to TIDES/University of Central Florida, more than 80% of UFC fighters have a college degree, which is much higher than many other sports including the NFL (31%), NBA (20%), and MLB (less than 45%). But you mentioned fans specifically, and here you're also way off. M…

> 80% of UFC fighters have a college degree

This might be due to some MMA fighters having a collegiate wrestling background.

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by rs999gti »

skc wrote: post #4

Seems a bit of a strange marriage but I suppose there is some sense in former UFC fighters being able to extend their careers by hopping over to the WWE.

And some WWE stars with legit fighting credentials have gone back and forth from UFC (and other MMA promotions) to WWE. Brock Lesnar being the best example

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by lcnPylGDnU4H9OF »

chaorace wrote: post #27
Quarrelsome wrote: post #8

If I were a UFC fan then I would be concerned about the integrity of UFC, given the pure entertainment and narrative focus that an organisation like WWE has. There will be moments where WWE execs or simply WWE practices and processes will realise that a certain UFC outcome will be much better entertainment. The question is whether or not everyone will forever have the integrity to ignore that as an option and if the…

> Could it maybe work the other way, start to make the WWE more real? That would be a tragic mistake for everyone involved. People like being in on the joke when John Cena, a grown man costumed in neon green, runs around the square stage whilst pretending to be invisible. It would ruin the fun if his opponent unceremoniously dropkicked him in the solar plexus.

> It would ruin the fun if his opponent unceremoniously dropkicked him in the solar plexus.

Not to take away from the point, but I could also see this being part of the joke. "No, obviously you're not invisible! Why did you think I would fall for that?"

The point is that WWE broadcasts are specifically about fun and entertainment. It's not supposed to be "real". (Although, obviously it is "real" even if it's staged; imagine doing what they do and not killing or injuring yourself or anyone else.)

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by MrMan »

BjoernKW wrote: post #56

I find it amusing when pro-wrestling gets compared with MMA - or any other combat / fighting sport, for that matter. I appreciate both, but they're entirely different beasts and should be judged based on their own merits. I by the way consider it no less funny when people pretend or assume MMA to be tantamount to - or at least a close approximation of - self-defence situations. MMA is still a sport with rules, which…

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Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by nailer »

flangola7 wrote: post #63
osclarto wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you have no idea what you're talking about and your comment is just patronising. MMA is a highly technical sport that demands elite levels of athleticism and sporting intelligence. fight fans are also already a highly diverse group from all around the world and that group is continually growing in size and diversity

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> Big muscles don't mean much with a small brain attached to them.

It says a lot you think ‘big muscles’ are a thing: the most popular divisions of UFC don’t have big muscular fighters.

Re: WWE Agrees to Merge with UFC

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Post by wraptile »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #8

If I were a UFC fan then I would be concerned about the integrity of UFC, given the pure entertainment and narrative focus that an organisation like WWE has. There will be moments where WWE execs or simply WWE practices and processes will realise that a certain UFC outcome will be much better entertainment. The question is whether or not everyone will forever have the integrity to ignore that as an option and if the…

I feel that as a society we have this delusion that sport is not entertainment when it absolutely is and arguably nothing more.
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