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Re: The Mullvad Browser

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a derivative of tor and mullvad, when tor browser is already second rate software (tor itself seems fine) and mullvad can't possibly be good since it's part of the "vpn as privacy mechnaism" fad. pass

there's no fixing web browsers.

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#242

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are the sketchy VPN providers capable of that, but not Mullvad?

Sketchier providers often use dubious methods to acquire their exit nodes. Often they pay someone to include their code in a "free" software or browser extension (or malware) that allows them to route traffic through the host. Oxylabs is one of the larger examples whose record is somewhat dubious.

IIRC the mylobot botnet is responsible for providing the vast majority of residential (home) IP addresses for residential VPN providers (who are then sold to expressvpn/nordvpn). The whole business is incredibly shady and nefarious and nordvpn/expressvpn must know from whom they contract their residential vpn services from.

BHProxies is the largest residential proxy provider on the internet and almost all of their proxies are acquired through the botnet above.

https://www.bitsight.com/blog/mylobot-investigating-proxy-bo...

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#244
post #185

I am disappointed to see that it doesn't integrate with Mullvad VPN at all. I have Mullvad VPN but I use it too less because I don't want all traffic on my mac going via VPN (e.g all kinds of random IDEs and websites). All I want is one browser which always uses VPN. But Mullvad has no split tunneling on mac AFAIK, and on windows also you can only block some apps from VPN, instead of saying that only this application…

Why don't you want random traffic to go through the VPN? Mullvad is quite fast.

It's not about speed. There are many websites where your identity is linked in some fashion (e.g Your bank). I don't want my bank to block my account because I was in one continent in the morning and another in afternoon. The same goes for other critical accounts. I know I know, this is all unlikely, but why bother with it if it can cause a lot of headache. e.g. I know of people whose facebook accounts got blocked and were asked to provide some id since the accounts were opened from two different geographies.

Basically sending all traffic via VPN seems a big headache to me.e.g. Using gmail from a VPN doesn't help me at all.

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sketchier providers often use dubious methods to acquire their exit nodes. Often they pay someone to include their code in a "free" software or browser extension (or malware) that allows them to route traffic through the host. Oxylabs is one of the larger examples whose record is somewhat dubious.

IIRC the mylobot botnet is responsible for providing the vast majority of residential (home) IP addresses for residential VPN providers (who are then sold to expressvpn/nordvpn). The whole business is incredibly shady and nefarious and nordvpn/expressvpn must know from whom they contract their residential vpn services from. BHProxies is the largest residential proxy provider on the internet and almost all of their pr…

Cool, I did not know about this one.

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#247

Mullvad is the swedish name for a mole incase you were wondering. Source: wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mullvad

I was wondering! For an English-speaking audience it feels like it might be a poor brand. It's not exactly a "nice-sounding" name. Though to be fair, they might not be trying to win mindshare, so careful branding might not be a concern.

I appreciate that to a technical audience this can usually feel like a super pedantic bit of nonsense. But for the other 99% of browser users, this kind of thing can matter!

"You should try out the Mullvad browser!"

"The what?"

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#248
post #20

I guess why not. This is an open source, rebranded Firefox and Firefox-like browsers could use some publicity. It promotes privacy and privacy can use some publicity too. Tor too. Mullvad seems to be honest in the fact that their business model is selling VPNs and it's nice they are saying it's not enough. They are not saying that you might not need one though. We need a Firefox with good defaults and it seems like t…

> it's nice they are saying it's not enough.

Mullvad, who has a reputation in the HN comments for being just like... over the top amazing + great (they swear up and down they don't store traffic logs and if you don't trust them, you can pay anonymously somehow or whatever), is having a "hard time" being profitable/growing

all while

NordVPN, who has a bad reputation in HN comments for being untrustworthy and "not so anonymous", seems more well known (and therefore most likely has more paying customers and makes more money?)

What is that law called in business? when the "less good" offering wins?

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#249
post #20

I guess why not. This is an open source, rebranded Firefox and Firefox-like browsers could use some publicity. It promotes privacy and privacy can use some publicity too. Tor too. Mullvad seems to be honest in the fact that their business model is selling VPNs and it's nice they are saying it's not enough. They are not saying that you might not need one though. We need a Firefox with good defaults and it seems like t…

> it's nice they are saying it's not enough. Mullvad, who has a reputation in the HN comments for being just like... over the top amazing + great (they swear up and down they don't store traffic logs and if you don't trust them, you can pay anonymously somehow or whatever), is having a "hard time" being profitable/growing all while NordVPN, who has a bad reputation in HN comments for being untrustworthy and "not so a…

It's called educating your potential customers on your product.

NordVPN has spent an incredible amount of money getting their name out there.

The majority of the population hasn't a clue about what a VPN is or does. The ones that do, their only interface is "its this thing my company makes me connect to"

Of the remaining subset of people who are aware of what VPNs actually do for you, it's likely they can only name 1 or two brands: NordVPN and ExpressVPN.

So if you have the superior product, but the lesser position in the market, then get busy marketing.

Re: The Mullvad Browser

#250
post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I guess why not. > ...Even in the desktop version, Firefox's sandbox is still substantially weaker (especially on Linux) and lacks full support for isolating sites from each other rather than only containing content as a whole. The sandbox has been gradually improving on the desktop but it isn't happening for their Android browser yet. https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing

Seems like a wash overall with how Chrome for Android lacks support for extensions entirely. Firefox for Android supports uBlock Origin, which greatly cuts down on tracking and chances to be hit by broadly-targeted malvertising.

Kiwi Browser is a chrome fork that supports web extentions on Android.
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