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Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by AlexandrB »

cal85 wrote: post #62
snarf21 wrote: post #10

This is a nonsense headline. This is the equivalent of "Factory automation won't steal your job, companies that buy factory automation will." Democratization of AI tools will have upsides and downsides but non researchers weren't playing around with AI text/chat generation before this last round of simple to use tools came out.

The headline is a pithy statement that those who ignore AI will be left behind, just as those who ignore automation were left behind. I don't think it means what you seem to think it means.

Ironically, the advice from some circles for those left behind by automation was "learn to code".

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by tricksforfree »

lolsowrong wrote: post #78
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I can't count the number of times I've listened to someone argue their answer must be right because they got it from the calculator. Answers from calculators are always right! But the human may have asked the wrong question.

Go type .1*.2 into any JavaScript console. Edit: slapping a few more in here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/excel/... https://daviddeley.com/pentbug/index.htm

One deck is made of wood. One deck is made made of steel. They will behave differently after years of weathering.

Just because they are both both decks doesn't mean they are the same.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#103

Post by ipaddr »

kolinko wrote: post #59
gavinhoward wrote: post #13

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

Is your home furniture from an artisan craftsman, or from Ikea?

Craftsman. Who buys garbage from Ikea? This is a site where people make faang money not min wage. Do you eat at McD everyday or pay more for quality

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by nightski »

chewz wrote: post #94
gavinhoward wrote: post #13

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

> The economic value of mediocre and derivative work is plummeting. But the value of truly excellent and original work will become even more unique, more highly prized. > A chasm between the third best and fourth best script writer, graphic designer, lawyer, etc. is just starting to open. ChatGPT might write the next Marvel movie but will never write the next Everything Everywhere All at Once. Not my words. By Eric P…

So a race to the bottom. I wouldn't rely on the "truly excellent and original work" crutch for very long.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by shadowgovt »

blibble wrote: post #50
throwaway22032 wrote: post #28

It's a timescale, like all technological progress. Or even evolution. So you're working in a games development studio as a visual artist. At first you're producing renderings in Blender or whatever. Then, AI is able to generate three-dimensional meshes for you. You are in the loop, deciding that these meshes are suitable, which textures work, which are the best, designing the prompts, etc. This is 3D midjourney. At t…

> The AI has now replaced you as an artist. The software team or management simply ask the AI - "please produce me a set of fantasy character models for my game, with these characteristics". This is essentially GPT mixed with 3D midjourney. then about 6 months in people start noticing that every game looks exactly the same

... but how much will they care? A huge chunk of games on Steam are now running on Unity and feel fundamentally the same; that hasn't stopped people using the engine.

Do we play games for novel look and sound or novel experience or novel story? The answer is "All of the above."

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by m3kw9 »

spark3k wrote: post #29

This is like saying tractors won't steal agricultural hand-ploughing jobs, the people building the tractors will. Technically true. But... stupid.

It freed them from doing something so brutal, I’m a half glass full guy, they are now upgrading their skills to drive tractors

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by lolsowrong »

tricksforfree wrote: post #102
lolsowrong wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go type .1*.2 into any JavaScript console. Edit: slapping a few more in here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/troubleshoot/excel/... https://daviddeley.com/pentbug/index.htm

One deck is made of wood. One deck is made made of steel. They will behave differently after years of weathering. Just because they are both both decks doesn't mean they are the same.

Are both useful in some context?

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by labrador »

gavinhoward wrote: post #13

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

I hate to break it to you, but a for loop is a for loop is a for loop is a for loop...

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by AlexandrB »

shadowgovt wrote: post #98
spark3k wrote: post #29

This is like saying tractors won't steal agricultural hand-ploughing jobs, the people building the tractors will. Technically true. But... stupid.

Is it stupid? Because people are railing against the AI, not the system of evaluating worth and distributing wealth that implies that the advent of a miraculous labor-saving technology should be met with fear, not excitement about expansion of the capabilities of every human being.

I think this is right on. AI would be an amazing if it didn't mean that some people will have an even harder time making ends meet. Why does every technological innovation that improves productivity end up shifting even more resources to those at the top of the ladder?

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Post by danogentili »

gavinhoward wrote: post #13

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

Heartily agree with this worldview: as I argued in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34277750, I believe this is how creatives will be able to make a living in a post-AI world, by continuing to hand-craft art, stories and software that will stand out from the bland AI-generated landscape, and will be enjoyed by other humans, bored by and/or not willing to consume an endless flood of AI-generated content.
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