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Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

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Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#491

Are these things not valuable? I was wondering how they don't get grabbed up by the dozen and scrapped for parts.

They have gps tracking.

While petty criminals probably steal and scrap them, turning it into some sort of enterprise seems like it would not be worth the ease of being caught.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#492
To be clear: it's not all e-scooter, it's the free service ones.

Parisian can still own and use their own, but they're done with the ones being left on the ground randomly, being used in poor fashion (on the sidewalk, or with two/three people standing on one), being thrown in the river, ... And that's mostly caused by free services ones that you don't own and thus don't care if anything happens to it.

I don't live in Paris anymore but I fully agree with that decision. Especially since this is a city that is working its way into reclaiming the outdoor space for bicycle and pedestrians, you can imagine how poorly received are e-scooter abusing the sidewalk and making people unsafe.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#495
103000 votes out of 1.38MM voters. Less than 7% of registered voters even bothered.

So we can say 6% were firmly against. I am pro micromobility but some of these companies business models is a complete disservice to public order. It's a real tragedy of the commons. The companies that could implement scooter pens would lose marketshare to the ones that don't since a scooter on any corner is more convenient than a scooter stored more than a block away.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#496
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It is a good thing I was in Paris recently and those things are littering sidewalks (sometimes by piles of dozens all mangled), and people are driving them recklessly. Really a big annoyance.

Same everywhere. It's the kind of business it'd never have occurred to me to start because I'd have assumed "e-waste littering, at scale" was illegal, but as often happens I guess the "at scale" part somehow made it OK.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#497

> City Hall said on its website about 103,000 people voted... The population of Paris is about 2.1 million according to Wikipedia, meaning ~5% turnout.

From the article:

>The result wasn't close. City Hall said on its website about 103,000 people voted, with 89% rejecting e-scooters and just 11% supporting them.

>Turnout was very low. The vote had been open to all of Paris' 1.38 million registered voters.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#498

I think electric personal mobility vehicles are such a missed opportunity in terms of climate / traffic reduction. Certainly in the UK the fact that they started by being basically illegal for years and means they are, for the most part, ridden by people who don't give a shit or people who's parents don't give a shit.

Luckily the headline is misleading and they're just not banning escooters, they're just eliminating the rental ones.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#499

Here in Tel Aviv, they'll never get rid of them for at least one reason: they're the only form of at-least-semi-public transportation available on the weekend (Shabbat) and Jewish holidays, when the law forbids buses and trains from running. Meet a date at 10 PM on Friday night? Scoot. Catch the Saturday 5 AM tour bus to a day-hike that's meeting on the other side of town? Scoot. They've also helped boost demand for…

While in Tel-Aviv, watch out for e-scooters, they are very fast, aggressive and dangerous. One bumped strongly into me while I crossed the street at green light, didn't even apologize and sped away.

E-scooters don't hit people. People riding e-scooters hit people.

Re: Paris votes to ban rental e-scooters

#500

I think electric personal mobility vehicles are such a missed opportunity in terms of climate / traffic reduction. Certainly in the UK the fact that they started by being basically illegal for years and means they are, for the most part, ridden by people who don't give a shit or people who's parents don't give a shit.

I don’t think illegality filtered for people who don’t give a shit. I think it filtered for risk-takers. It’s risky to one’s safety to ride a personal powered vehicle on city streets. I think the median rider is less worried about safety compared to either the pedestrians or the cars.
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