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Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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How often are calculators confidently wrong?

How often are people?

I think the difference, right now at least, is that people will go, "well, I'm not sure about this so I think we should look it up, but this is what I think" - the AI doesn't do that. It lies in the same exact way it tells truths. How are you supposed to make decisions based off of that information?

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#52

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You’re an inspiration. I’m going to open an accounting firm and refuse to use calculators.

How often are calculators confidently wrong?

As a math teacher, this is such a funny comparison to keep reading.

Yes, there's a difference between a deterministic outcome and a non-deterministic one. But throw humans into the loop, and it becomes more interesting. I can't count the number of times I've listened to someone argue their answer must be right because they got it from the calculator. And it's not just students; as a teacher I've always paid attention to how adults use math.

With calculators or GPT tools, or any other automated assistant, judgement and validation continues to matter.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re an inspiration. I’m going to open an accounting firm and refuse to use calculators.

How often are calculators confidently wrong?

Every time the human supervising it makes a mistake in their role in the relationship between user and tool.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#54

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

I like this perspective, despite being incredibly excited about the advancements and potential of AI.

While it kind of feels like reading tea leaves right now, I can see a time where AI-driven products prosper, lowering the bar for good ideas to come to market that may have otherwise not.

Some of those good ideas will take off; those AI-built products may not be able to keep up. Where those AI-built products can't keep up is where non-AI or post-AI (or whatever we want to term it) businesses like yours, or experts, or consultancies, can come in and help those AI-built businesses grow beyond their original constraints.

I'm personally excited by it all. It suddenly feels to me like the Wild West (positive and negative connotations included) and we're all on an adventure together.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#55

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

Possibly. This is certainly a pattern that works in other industries.

I am aware of a local glass company with about 50 years of operation under its belt. They have tooling, but the process is heavily manual; no aspect of it is end-to-end automated. Their primary customers are those requiring high precision for industrial applications (electrical, aeronautics).

They are forever capacity-capped because their model doesn't scale; the benefits of adding labor are sub-linear, so there's a "healthy size" for them and they leave money on the table if they scale in either direction from it. But they have their niche, they fit it nicely, and they continue to operate.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

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Unless we expect a grassroots AI luddite movement, this is hair splitting.

With the cost of living in the US being completely out of control, and the potential for AI to gut wages in a number of high paid areas, why are we not expecting a new luddite movement? Or is this another case of not understanding why the luddites broke the machines in the first place?

Americans are too divided to organize against something like this in any way.

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re an inspiration. I’m going to open an accounting firm and refuse to use calculators.

How often are calculators confidently wrong?

There's a lot of work happening at the moment around self-reflection and getting LLMs to identify and correct their own hallucinations and mistakes.

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2303.11366.pdf

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#58

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

John Henry beat the steam powered drill after all!

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#59

I completely disagree. I'm building a business, and this business will be based on excellent software and excellent support for that software. I will refuse to use AI. But instead of AI users taking my job, I'm sure that refusing to use AI will become my differentiator as every AI user becomes more and more like each other. You may think that good AI users will not become so bland, but they will. Human laziness will…

Is your home furniture from an artisan craftsman, or from Ikea?

Re: AI won't steal your job, people leveraging AI will

#60
post #29

This is like saying tractors won't steal agricultural hand-ploughing jobs, the people building the tractors will. Technically true. But... stupid.

Tractors and policy favoring bigger scale agricultural production.

The US is profoundly inefficient at utilizing land for agriculture. The “miracle of the desert” and emptying a giant, un-renewable aquifer has been carrying us for decades. In my lifetime, we’ll be relying on small garden plots just like the Soviets did for vegetables.

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