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Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by starkd »

chatmasta wrote: post #83
throwaway6734 wrote: post #68

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I don't understand? The US can disrupt food/oil/financial markets/innovation more than any other planet on earth. All of these can be flexed peacefully

Disruption of financial markets is not a precision weapon, and it frequently backfires. Currency wars aligning with multipolar powers makes them even more disruptive. Once the US defense of the dollar turns from theoretical to reality, it necessitates violence. You can say "the USD has all this power as a reserve currency because of US military power projection," and it may be true, but once other powers start to ali…

And the US military is having a recruitment issue. Not to mention new recruits tend not to be up to fitness standards. The two wars at once standard is questionable at best.

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Post by st4lz »

pmontra wrote: post #81
fakedang wrote: post #37

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Sometimes it's okay to assume that cost, if it means standing on the right side morally. As an Indian, I detest the Russian invasion. In fact, a number of Indians do, and it's only a few vocal fanatics who seem to support Russia's invasion. None of us thought Russia would be stupid enough to invade Ukraine, and we all thought it was a ploy to raise oilprices by making up "tensions at the border". And trust me, the We…

> India has begun programmes in every front to dispose of Russian military tech I've been wondering about that. I imagined that countries buying weapons from Russia would be worried and considering to pivot to another seller. Maybe this not because of the poor display of those weapons in combat, after all they just must be not worse than the weapons of the neighbors or of the other internal factions, but because they…

I can see the mutual partnerships are on the rise. There is a brand new polish-korean cooperation for producing various weapons. India may produce its own equipment by finding a reliable partner that would help with know-how.

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Post by st4lz »

bigbillheck wrote: post #111
st4lz wrote: post #106

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Could you please list any other war of conquest with that much casualties, armour usage and refugee issue in Europe? And what punishment are we talking about, voluntary economical sanctions? Those numbers of atrocities, stealing children, mass graves - I still can't understand how the international response is so mild.

> in Europe? This is an interesting little bit on the end of that question.

Why is that?

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by starkd »

ericmay wrote: post #33
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

Well. China relationship is strained for many reasons, Ukraine and their general support for Russia conducting the war is just icing on the cake. This has strained Chinese relations with multiple countries though (UK, EU members, etc.). India I’m not seeing much in the way of change. The US at least didn’t really do anything different with India buying Russian oil. US relations with South American companies are varia…

>> India I’m not seeing much in the way of change. The US at least didn’t really do anything different with India buying Russian oil.

On the contrary, perhaps relations are not that good.

https://hindupost.in/world/target-modi-us-regime-change-mach...

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Post by 5040 »

simonh wrote: post #110
5040 wrote: post #102

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NATO never made any formal commitment not to expand eastward, and Russian presidents from Yeltsin onwards were completely relaxed about eastern European countries choosing freely to join NATO. Gorbachev is on record saying he was never even aware any such statements had been given. In May 2002 Vladimir Putin said Ukraine was entitled to decide on its own whether to join NATO and that he did not see such a decision as…

>I think it's highly loaded to phrase this as NATO expansion. It sounds like NATO somehow coerced these countries into joining, or annexed them somehow.

That's not where I would put the emphasis. Though there was some courting, the anti-Russian sentiment in these countries was genuine.

Russia shares its borders with 14 other nations. What happened is that, one by one, many of these joined, or became partner to, an alliance which views Russia as something to be contained. Russian leaders may not have been worried at first, but that changed later.

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Post by user3939382 »

simonh wrote: post #64
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

The fact that there's a major land war in Ukraine, which the US did not start and had no power to prevent, has come at a huge cost. This is true. Given that Ukraine patently was not just going to roll over, and even if the US hadn't supported them, much of Europe absolutely would. I think it's petty plain the war would still be raging fiercely anyway. Most likely Russia would be on the skirts of or in Kyiv and Odessa…

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Post by travisporter »

csomar wrote: post #63
boringg wrote: post #56

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Can you describe why you think the US has "significantly abused their position with the US dollars hegemony."

FATCA, protectionism hidden behind AML/KYC, money printing at the expense of the other countries' reserves, sanctions or the threat of sanctions, political requests for IMF/WB funding, etc... Really, it's a shitshow and the US is rarely the good guy here.

I really don’t see how protectionism hides behind these acronyms

Sanctions would be a reasonable argument I personally agree with

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Post by travisporter »

34679 wrote: post #84
throwaway6734 wrote: post #68

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I don't understand? The US can disrupt food/oil/financial markets/innovation more than any other planet on earth. All of these can be flexed peacefully

>more than any other planet on earth Take a look at the space around you. How many of the items you see were made in the US?

There are no planets on earth

Re: Japan Breaks with U.S. Allies, Buys Russian Oil at Prices Above Cap

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Post by user3939382 »

fakedang wrote: post #37
user3939382 wrote: post #23

Anyone who's been paying attention I believe would agree that our foreign policy around Ukraine has come at a huge cost not only to us financially and economically, but also to our foreign relations. Under this conflict our relations with China, India, Brazil, Saudi Arabia -- these are important partners -- have degraded. Having watched that unfold, this isn't a surprise to me.

Sometimes it's okay to assume that cost, if it means standing on the right side morally. As an Indian, I detest the Russian invasion. In fact, a number of Indians do, and it's only a few vocal fanatics who seem to support Russia's invasion. None of us thought Russia would be stupid enough to invade Ukraine, and we all thought it was a ploy to raise oilprices by making up "tensions at the border". And trust me, the We…

> on the right side morally

We just got 100s of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians killed so we could write a huge check to the US arms industry.

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Post by starkd »

5040 wrote: post #96
imwithstoopid wrote: post #49

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Demand for American currency abroad brought stability to the currency. If that demand should diminish significantly, future American financial excesses will become a lot more dangerous. This might speed along decline or motivate a return to more disciplined economic policies. Time will tell.

The end of the ability to run deficits. Social Security and medicare financial problems become exponentially more urgent and dire.
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