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I disagree with the article, but your analogy is pretty off. The "real" alternatives to those are not as... available as "real" porn.
AI porn will never be sexy
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#32> For now, when we talk about AI, porn and sex, everything is speculative. Ah, nice to see some humility in attempts to predict the futu— > Broadly speaking, however, we exist in a culture that values humanity. We care, at least on paper, about the human element. AI is unlikely to change that. Nevermind then. Humans, you know, are also "trained" as they grow up. And the new generations, growing up much more exposed t…
If people can find cartoon or 3D modeled porn sexy (and they do), they will find AI porn sexy. Maybe not everyone, but enough people will. So yeah I agree with you.
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#33I never thought we'd hit a point in my lifetime where artificially generated porn would be compelling, but I'm utterly impressed by the quality of SFM adult content. And I'm thinking if porn sites can combine the various forms of generative AI (including the voice acting) to allow viewers to create their own fantasies... look out. If people lament the popularity of these fantasies I would say there's a segment of peo…
> If people lament the popularity of these fantasies I would say there's a segment of people not lucky enough to find a partner and are absolutely disillusioned about the prospects of finding someone. I know some men for example who occasionally end up using escorts after having no luck finding someone for long periods of time. And so yeah, is it really unexpected that people address these needs elsewhere even if it's not ideal?
Porn is different to having a partner though. Being with someone is more than just sex.
To your point, I could imagine a world in which some people have long-term "committed" relationships with GPT-powered AIs in the near future though. An AI like the one in Her seems very much possible today if you did some custom fine tuning of GPT-4 and added a NLP layer to convert speech-to-text and vice-versa.
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#34On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…
Deeply sexual content can’t be distributed. People says it’s “wrong” and stop it. There almost seems to be something simple as a basic polynomial in our brain that are sexy , which can be encoded into a picture and nonverbally extracted. I just know because artists who knows how to stroke that function gets accounts banned anywhere.
There's something more nuanced going on here. Depictions of sex and romance have essentially disappeared from American mainstream cinema as it has become dominated by franchise films. While prestige television is frequently more sophisticated and thematically 'adult', here too we've seen the 'love scene' disappear (with notable exceptions like Normal People).
It's harder now to include any element in a screenplay that will offend either the moral majority, or their mirror images on the left. Both of whom are deeply suspicious of anything approaching depictions of sex and sexuality for approximately opposite ostensible reasons.
Even shooting such scenes today is beset with issues with the rise of 'intimacy coordination' as a profession, and the perception that a director seeking to address these themes is lecherous. Sum total of this is a weird eliding of sex on screen. Where it is depicted, there's a clinical careful quality, often political (e.g.: I May Destroy You) rarely eroticism.
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#35On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…
> It's wild to me how ostensibly straight dudes got confronted with a little booty-shaking in their superhero story and they were all like "ewwww."
I don't really consume MCU stuff, but having seen the scene in question, I think the "ewww" has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality and everything to do with the weird, annoying, try-hard-to-be-trendy vibe that it represents. It's the same cringe as the Hillary Clinton dancing on Ellen thing from a few years back.
There was a time when comics were counter-cultural, niche, and interesting, bringing new ideas and stories and art into the world. Now, they're under the control of the Mouse, downstream of the cultural shit funnel and as a result, completely, laughably uninteresting - and worse - no longer cool.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most shows seem to drip with contempt towards their original fanbases lately. Many many creatives seem to want to make shows for themselves or some mystical non existing ultra nice demographic. She-Hulk is great example of all that especially the finale. The creators on Twitter insulted Marvel Fans, mocked Marvel, and attacked Kevin Feige.
She-Hulk WAS made for the original fan base. It was the original she-hulk. The problem was that people didn't realize what that original she-hulk was.
Jessica Gao (Showrunner for she hulk) literally asked herself:
"“I was more squeamish about it than they were. I was like, ‘Are we going too far? Are we throwing Marvel and fans under the bus by putting down Marvel films?”"
So she was very self-aware of what she was doing.
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#38> For now, when we talk about AI, porn and sex, everything is speculative. Ah, nice to see some humility in attempts to predict the futu— > Broadly speaking, however, we exist in a culture that values humanity. We care, at least on paper, about the human element. AI is unlikely to change that. Nevermind then. Humans, you know, are also "trained" as they grow up. And the new generations, growing up much more exposed t…
Humans, you know, are also "trained" as they grow up. And the new generations, growing up much more exposed to the AI-generated media from the earliest ages, may as well end up finding AI porn just as — if not more — sexy as human-produced porn. That too is a speculation, yes, but considering the whole history of humanity full of vast shifts in cultural and aesthetic norms, it's a very mild speculation.
While I hesitate to use it in this context, reminds of one of Planck's principle - "progress, on funeral at a time"
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#39On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…
This is excellent bait, and I'll take it.
You (hopefully) know as well as I do that twerking with Megan Thee Stallion is more of a "yas queen" than a "does this please you, viewer?"
The thing that takes an ostensibly (lol) enticing sexual act and turns it into an "ewwww" is when it's wrapped up in a big box emblazoned with the letters "POLITICAL POWER PLAY." Oh yes please, that's exactly what I want, serve me some tits and ass with a side of "why are you threatened by strong women?"
I like a hate-fuck as much as the next guy, but I'm kind of tired of being hatefucked by the media industry. To call this stuff propaganda is an insult to propaganda. At least propaganda has to be smart. This is just the writers and artists' daddy issues on full display. We all know it, and this hatred of the simple straight male has infected everything.
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#40Most human produced porn is already unsexy
Thanks for doing the research, this is much appreciated.