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AI porn will never be sexy

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Re: AI porn will never be sexy

#11
> but it will not replace or reflect the nuances of a human relationship.

This sounds like a boring mysticism but I fully believe this is the case - AI generated data looks like a machine-readable schema file to me, all format but no data. Compared to that, human output is corrupted media file; huge mess, of cohesive intents.

AI data looks good and fine if you don’t know what data is supposed to be in it, but only if you aren’t the supposed consumer of it.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

#12
On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be.

E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight dudes got confronted with a little booty-shaking in their superhero story and they were all like "ewwww."

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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post #12

On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…

>ostensibly straight

Why is their straightness "ostensible" but the sexiness in question is not? That comes off as pretty judgy, in terms of what people do and do not find sexy. Regardless, what did She-Hulk bring that other superhero media hasn't (I haven't seen it - surely you're not saying that "good looking strong people" are not sexy and "booty-shaking" is? I assume there's something else in She-Hulk that's qualitatively different from those two examples of shallow sexuality?)

Also, I really did not expect on HN to see the "what are you, gay?" deflection to somebody's dislike of something in media just because it involves a person/character of the opposite sex.

Further, what's wrong with an "ewww" response in the first place, in this case? You're implying there's something wrong with a person having that reaction, but haven't explained why.

Overall, this is a surprisingly un-generous post.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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post #12

On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…

I don't think it was as simple as "Booty shaking? Ewww.", it's just that the booty shaking scene serves as an excellent proxy for "this show isn't what we expected, wanted, or like".

By all means, write different shows for different people, there are plenty of shows that aren't for me and that's fine. You just have to be careful when you're counting on an existing audience to be your fans while also trying to write something that's not at all for them. Write a Star Trek spinoff crossed with The Bachelor if you want, but my TNG-loving self certainly isn't going to watch it, and I will be mad if you try and trick me into thinking it's more of something I love.

It's just that we don't communicate with any nuance anymore, maybe because it doesn't fit into our 140-character attention spans? So "ewww, booty shaking" is about the best we get.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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post #12

On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…

Most shows seem to drip with contempt towards their original fanbases lately. Many many creatives seem to want to make shows for themselves or some mystical non existing ultra nice demographic.

She-Hulk is great example of all that especially the finale. The creators on Twitter insulted Marvel Fans, mocked Marvel, and attacked Kevin Feige.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

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post #12

On one hand, this essay feels like a whole lot of "cope," but if we roll with the author's definition, I think that what people are (feeling/not feeling) is that all of our entertainment is deeply unsexy, even when it's trying to be. E.g.the whole superhero thing. Good looking strong people, and nothing remotely "sexy" related comes up until She-Hulk, and then people hate it. It's wild to me how ostensibly straight d…

Deeply sexual content can’t be distributed. People says it’s “wrong” and stop it.

There almost seems to be something simple as a basic polynomial in our brain that are sexy, which can be encoded into a picture and nonverbally extracted. I just know because artists who knows how to stroke that function gets accounts banned anywhere.

Re: AI porn will never be sexy

#20
post #11

> but it will not replace or reflect the nuances of a human relationship. This sounds like a boring mysticism but I fully believe this is the case - AI generated data looks like a machine-readable schema file to me, all format but no data. Compared to that, human output is corrupted media file; huge mess, of cohesive intents. AI data looks good and fine if you don’t know what data is supposed to be in it, but only if…

I've spent a lot of time with AI in random conversations seeking to get it to explore interesting spaces that should theoretically exist although not in the training data, it's an expansive area to explore and quite the rabbit hole, I'm often flibblopped and have to retire to consider the implications. Maybe that's just me :)
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