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Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

That's so many words for censorship

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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Such innocent hashtag as well, #StableDiffusion. Don't even need to clear the browsing history.

I recently got into CNC machining, so tried searching twitter to find some accounts to follow. boy was i surprised by that #cnc hashtag.

Searching for coverage by the British Broadcasting Company on Twitter is kind of a pain.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

#233

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

I didn't realize he was the guy who founded Leap Motion. I've worked with those devices and the Ultrahaptics that he sold too. It was a very nifty little device that was ahead of it's time and didn't really catch on until competitors had similar capabilities. I think they sold way, way below their peak valuation.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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> David seems to think that since ridiculing politicians in China is taboo, having people ridicule Xi on MJ would make it unwelcoming to people in China. It's taboo because a dictator forbids it. The people have nothing to do with it

Being banned would make it quite unwelcome

Being banned could give it subversive allure

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

#235

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

Currently, Midjourney lets users invite the Midjourney bot to their own private Discord server/channel, where no one else can see the images they generate using that bot. There's no reason that Midjourney couldn't allow whatever content the user wants to be generated there, as other Midjourney users would not be able to see it. But they insist on censoring Midjourney even in channels/servers inaccessible to the wider…

If they did this then they would likely be legally liable for generating child porn in certain countries including the US. And even if it's just regular porn then their credit card processors would ban them and so would any corporate clients. So in the end it's a question of what you censor and not if you censor things.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

#236

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

Is there an actual source for that or are you just here to complain about Stable Diffusion users flooding your Twitter with AI waifus? If David is such a "big dreamer hippie dork," he should: 1. either open source the model or at least make it cheaper ($8/month for just 200 images is ridiculous) and 2. not bow down to dictators, or just stay out of political subjects completely.

4 cents an image is ridiculous?

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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I could have a set of values I believe in and not run my service in countries that violate my values. Seems pretty simple. Not simple if you want to make money from a huge percentage of people in China. Also, it seems like the principle of giving into bullies isn’t just an immediate decision but a precedent for future decisions where the rule is to capitulate to authoritarian regime demands.

>"the rule is to capitulate to authoritarian regime demands" Western countries impose a crapload not so freedom loving laws / rulse / behavior / etc as well. Do you propose shutting down business in the West as well? Or you have a rule that says kill no more people than X or do not kill people in country Y and you're ethical?

Certainly if a western country demanded I kill people with my product, I would refuse.

I don’t propose limiting use in China because they are jerks. I just propose not accepting their bullying demands to change my product.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

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post #201

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Is there an actual source for that or are you just here to complain about Stable Diffusion users flooding your Twitter with AI waifus? If David is such a "big dreamer hippie dork," he should: 1. either open source the model or at least make it cheaper ($8/month for just 200 images is ridiculous) and 2. not bow down to dictators, or just stay out of political subjects completely.

I dunno, you can generate as many images as you want in slow mode right?

I believe relaxed mode requires the standard tier, which is $30 at monthly rates.

Re: Midjourney CEO Silencing Satire About Xi Jinping

#240

Everyone is crying Corporate Greed in here. And, I can understand why. But, here’s another perspective based on listening to David Holz answer all kinds of questions from random users for four hours a week for over a year during Midjourney’s “Office Hours”. AFAICT, Midjourney has no shareholders and David Holz is the farthest thing from a slick CEO. He’s a big dreamer hippie dork. He made all the money he cares to ha…

Currently, Midjourney lets users invite the Midjourney bot to their own private Discord server/channel, where no one else can see the images they generate using that bot. There's no reason that Midjourney couldn't allow whatever content the user wants to be generated there, as other Midjourney users would not be able to see it. But they insist on censoring Midjourney even in channels/servers inaccessible to the wider…

Hi. I’m a volunteer Midjourney content moderator. They don’t pay me. I’m under no obligation to make them look good.

The team behind MJ are a bunch of overly-nice people. The work very hard night and day to help people bring art into the world. When they see their hard work resulting in porn, gore, gross-out or hate material, it is very discouraging. It’s not material they want to collaborate on. It’s not what they want to work so hard to help bring into the world. Someone else can work to create communities for that.

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